Random Thought Thread

[mrhasan]

One radion down due to humidity in tank. Thank god for back up lights

Makes me wonder why the manufacturers do not make IP65 rated fixtures that goes over the tank. It's just few gaskets/silicon seals.

[lockrookie]

Makes me wonder why the manufacturers do not make IP65 rated fixtures that goes over the tank. It's just few gaskets/silicon seals.


Then ppl wouldn't have anxiety attacks and buy new high priced lights. But it has me thinking on how to improve the situation so I don't have it happen again. It's not like the light is close to water or has no ventilation. But before I put the light back on it I will attempt a fix of some sort

[mrhasan]

Then ppl wouldn't have anxiety attacks and buy new high priced lights. But it has me thinking on how to improve the situation so I don't have it happen again. It's not like the light is close to water or has no ventilation. But before I put the light back on it I will attempt a fix of some sort

Good point :lol:

You can always put some silicon around the seem of the lens covering the light engine. Apart from sealing, there is no real way of keeping moisture out of these fixtures. They do not note their ingress protection but I am assuming these are IP54.

[Delphinus]

When I ran with halides it was a constant battle against humidity in the house. Ended up with an HRV and wow, does that ever eat up the humidity (basically because it's always so dang dry outside around here). Now with LEDs and T5's I find it's actually a battle for the opposite, it's TOO DRY in the house. I have to water my plants daily otherwise they start to wilt. (#firstworldproblems ?). I've shut off the HRV for the season some time ago but it's still a mystery to me where all the water is going.

It's nice not having to worry about humidity and heat but the truth is I miss my halides. I know I can up the intensity of my LEDs (and I really need to get on with that, I suppose). The few corals I have do not retain their colour, and when I had Radiums over the tank everything just popped with colour.

The nice thing about the LEDs is the shifting colours over the day, although on the flip side I really need to get on with fixing it up a little because it's just weird when you look at a orange fish that should be yellow normally, or a crimsom red fish that should be orange. Or a purple fish that, thanks to the strength of astigmatism correction of my eyeglasses, appears as two separate fishes swimming side by side, one that is pure blue and one is that pure red. :lol:

When time/budget allows I'm going to fit two halides back over my tank. I'll keep the LEDs for the dusk/dawn effect. I'm pretty sure the T5's I have for dusk/dawn now aren't really doing much for me given that for the size of the tank they probably should be doubled (but this isn't a possibility because there's no space anyhow). So maybe I'll pull them off, use them for overwintering my more light hungry plants. That's the dream anyhow. Time and money don't seem to fall into my lap though, despite that I keep hoping they will. But I digress.

Getting back to the topic of humidity though (which is what started my random thought ... sorry .. hey this IS the "random thought thread" so .. meh.. :lol:). Wouldn't the Radions need to have vent holes for heat dissipation and ventilation? I assume that you can't achieve any kind of IPxx-whatever ingress protection because of that?

[mrhasan]

When I ran with halides it was a constant battle against humidity in the house. Ended up with an HRV and wow, does that ever eat up the humidity (basically because it's always so dang dry outside around here). Now with LEDs and T5's I find it's actually a battle for the opposite, it's TOO DRY in the house. I have to water my plants daily otherwise they start to wilt. (#firstworldproblems ?). I've shut off the HRV for the season some time ago but it's still a mystery to me where all the water is going.

It's nice not having to worry about humidity and heat but the truth is I miss my halides. I know I can up the intensity of my LEDs (and I really need to get on with that, I suppose). The few corals I have do not retain their colour, and when I had Radiums over the tank everything just popped with colour.

The nice thing about the LEDs is the shifting colours over the day, although on the flip side I really need to get on with fixing it up a little because it's just weird when you look at a orange fish that should be yellow normally, or a crimsom red fish that should be orange. Or a purple fish that, thanks to the strength of astigmatism correction of my eyeglasses, appears as two separate fishes swimming side by side, one that is pure blue and one is that pure red. :lol:

When time/budget allows I'm going to fit two halides back over my tank. I'll keep the LEDs for the dusk/dawn effect. I'm pretty sure the T5's I have for dusk/dawn now aren't really doing much for me given that for the size of the tank they probably should be doubled (but this isn't a possibility because there's no space anyhow). So maybe I'll pull them off, use them for overwintering my more light hungry plants. That's the dream anyhow. Time and money don't seem to fall into my lap though, despite that I keep hoping they will. But I digress.

Getting back to the topic of humidity though (which is what started my random thought ... sorry .. hey this IS the "random thought thread" so .. meh.. :lol:). Wouldn't the Radions need to have vent holes for heat dissipation and ventilation? I assume that you can't achieve any kind of IPxx-whatever ingress protection because of that?

Yes ventilation has to be there but that's where the designer's experience come in. For example, the radion has a fan to dissipate the heat and the fan should not have have any issue with humidity as long as the fan is sealed to say IP65 or is outdoor rated. For IP65 sealing, the exposed wires (wires from the fan to the circuit and the termination points) need to be sealed by a compound that won't dissolve/react with water, silicon for example. The head sink connected to the light engines need to be sealed with proper gaskets to keep moisture from getting in through the vent into the engines via heat sink. Similarly, all seem will need some sort of seal (gaskets/silicon) to keep moisture from getting in. So basically, the seals have to be such that only the light engine and the circuits are protected.

The company I work for has a IP65 fixture that has two fans and ventilation holes on the sides but has seals in such a way that moisture/water cannot get into the light engine or circuits. Many drivers are already sealed to IP65 now-a-days so drivers do not need to be sealed.

In the end, it all depends on how crafty the light enclosure designer is.

[Dearth]

So after several months of deliberation I finally broke down and bought a spare bed but instead of buying a basic bed I bought a full on storage bed from JYSK. The display bed looks awesome and sturdy and big selling point for me was the storage it offered.

Get all three boxes home and immediately look for the instruction manual and of course it's in the last box I opened. I looked through the manual and discovered that according to the manufacturer it should take no more than 180 minutes to build this bed. Haha jokes on me

The instruction book has no writing or description in it just very basic pictures with corresponding numbers and letters for the wood and screws/fasteners. What made it challenging is that the diagrams did not show any of the corresponding holes in the wood for proper alignment and assembly it was basically a guessing game. Finally stopped for the night and waited for JYSK to open next morning as soon as the store opened I went right to the display bed and started snapping pictures with my IPhone headboards, drawers, bed frame and so on.

Went home and everything I had built the night before which was a grand total of 4 pieces of wood and reassembled in the correct order and after 3 hrs of steady work had the headboard built. Yesterday was all the drawers and sliders on the drawers which took about 2 and a half hours to build and then had to disassemble because 2 pages over in the manual was the final step in finishing the drawers which in reality was the first step.

Today I finished the bed frame connected it all together and now I am the proud owner of a storage bed. Manufacturer suggested 180 minutes for two people to build well it took one person just under 8 hrs total to build the bed with incomplete and confusing instruction manual to boot.

Love the bed but be damned if I will take on another bed from the same manufacturer don't need the stress :lol:

[lockrookie]

Good point :lol:



You can always put some silicon around the seem of the lens covering the light engine. Apart from sealing, there is no real way of keeping moisture out of these fixtures. They do not note their ingress protection but I am assuming these are IP54.


The water didn't enter at the lens it actually entered around the fan area. And corroded the wire harness for the pucks.

[mrhasan]

The water didn't enter at the lens it actually entered around the fan area. And corroded the wire harness for the pucks.

That's just bad design!

[gregzz4]

Aiptasia are like herpes;

-Once you have herpes you always have it, even it it never shows

-Nobody wants to go near you

[Dearth]

Aiptasia are like herpes;

-Once you have herpes you always have it, even it it never shows

-Nobody wants to go near you

This is so tough not to touch.....

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

My younger daughter Isabella started Kindergarten this month. Wow, where has all those years flown off to? Seems like just a little while ago we were bringing her home from the delivery room/hospital and now she's started school already.

[hillegom]

tempus fugit

[gregzz4]

This is so tough not to touch.....
Don't have herpes - found some aiptasia in my old LR. Never had any for years in the old display. I epoxied over some years ago, so only thing I can think of is the little buggers survived all this time and sprouted when I broke the rock apart

[Dearth]

I find it funny that when I tell people I am a shift worker that works 12 hr shifts (4 shifts on 2 days 2 nights and 4 off) they usually look at me like I'm a basket case and then will almost invariably ask the same question every time "why would I ever work shift?"

I've never had a "standard" Monday to Friday job in my 30 years in the work force and I've never had a job with weekends off and I've been doing this current shift for 20 years and I love it.

I also like the fact I don't have to be a sheep and be herded every Friday, Saturday and Sunday with all the other regular people. It's fun and refreshing to have week days off and do things leisurally without having to force my way through the throngs of weekend warriors to do something "relaxing".

It isn't for everybody and I work with my share of shift workers who hate it but won't leave it because the pay cut would be huge so they stay and whine every chance they get but I've always liked it and you could say I've thrived on it

[Myka]

Anyone remember the name of that thread where everyone was posting pics of their sump/under tank area?

[WarDog]

Let's see your sump?

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

I find it funny that when I tell people I am a shift worker that works 12 hr shifts (4 shifts on 2 days 2 nights and 4 off) they usually look at me like I'm a basket case and then will almost invariably ask the same question every time "why would I ever work shift?"

I've never had a "standard" Monday to Friday job in my 30 years in the work force and I've never had a job with weekends off and I've been doing this current shift for 20 years and I love it.

I also like the fact I don't have to be a sheep and be herded every Friday, Saturday and Sunday with all the other regular people. It's fun and refreshing to have week days off and do things leisurally without having to force my way through the throngs of weekend warriors to do something "relaxing".

It isn't for everybody and I work with my share of shift workers who hate it but won't leave it because the pay cut would be huge so they stay and whine every chance they get but I've always liked it and you could say I've thrived on it

It's not for everyone but finding an unconventional job situation like shift work or being self-employed (like I am) has it's perks. For me, I get to work at home, raise my own kids, and see/play/teach/cook for my little girls while they're young. I never saw much of my dad growing up cause he worked 1 pm to 11 pm M-F. So we'd see him on the weekends mainly. I want to be more available for my kids while they are small cause next thing I know, Felicia and Isabella will be asking to borrow my car keys and off they'll go, doing their own thing. If I was working at a "job", I'd choose shift work cause 12 hour days is no problem for me and I'm a night owl anyways so working nights is fine too. Better to work 48 hours in 4 days and then have the next four days off. Glad you found something that makes you happy and suits your lifestyle/personality.

Anthony

[gregzz4]

Anyone remember the name of that thread where everyone was posting pics of their sump/under tank area?
This one? http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89683

[Myka]

This one? http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89683

No, it was much newer...maybe 2015?

[gregzz4]

I give ... can't find anything else, except the July 2015 'Thinking outside the box' pic contest with Warren's sump.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115466

[WarDog]

I was thinking of a thread, but then I remembered it's over at R2R.

[Ram3500]

I was thinking of a thread, but then I remembered it's over at R2R.

Do you mean R2-D2 ??

[Myka]

I give ... can't find anything else, except the July 2015 'Thinking outside the box' pic contest with Warren's sump.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115466

It was a thread that was started around that time...I think shortly after. I've searched and searched - can't find it.

[Dearth]

It still amazes me that most lower mainlanders have no clue what a block heater is or what it does a fellow from Delta had his vehicle freeze up on him here in town and could not for the life of him figure out why we were asking if he had plugged in until we explained it to him.

[Reef Pilot]

It still amazes me that most lower mainlanders have no clue what a block heater is or what it does a fellow from Delta had his vehicle freeze up on him here in town and could not for the life of him figure out why we were asking if he had plugged in until we explained it to him.
Block heater?... Isn't that a cap, haha. I grew up in Manitoba, and I bet most don't know what frost shields are either.

And for all those former Winterpegers (and maybe some still live there), here is an old Manitoba winter anthem song... And so true, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_I1v9P3kZY

[Dearth]

Block heater?... Isn't that a cap, haha. I grew up in Manitoba, and I bet most don't know what frost shields are either.

And for all those former Winterpegers (and maybe some still live there), here is an old Manitoba winter anthem song... And so true, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_I1v9P3kZY

What was funniest about this fellow is he googled cold weather and he found what clothes he should be wearing but he had zero clue about vehicle winterization .....ah well at least like the Americans lower mainlanders provide the rest of us with endless entertainment :mrgreen:

[Reef Pilot]

ah well at least like the Americans lower mainlanders provide the rest of us with endless entertainment :mrgreen:
Are you trying to start something here?...:smile:

Got to remember that 1/3 of us came here to escape the cold of other parts of BC and Canada. Another 1/3 (could be even higher now) came from a warm country far across the big sea, and have never seen snow before. The rest are native lower mainlanders that have never heard of 20 below, and are a diminishing population as they cash up and move to the Okanagan to live with the Albertans (who will teach them about block heaters)...

[hillegom]

Block heater,!!!
Some people haven't heard of winter tires!

[daplatapus]

Lol, I moved to the Island about 9 years ago from Alberta. One of the mechanics at Canadian tire asked if my 2002 F350 was actually an electric truck when he saw the plug poking out the grill!
Not that I ever took my vehicles there often, but I certainly have never since :)

[Dearth]

I am just more than slightly annoyed today found a seller in the lower Mainland who was selling equipment and parts for SW the seller had several power heads for a 150 gallon+ and 3 radion lights plus replacement parts and apex busses to run the lights and power heads. Great score I thought the seller was willing to ship at buyers cost anywhere in BC another score.

I made a pitch for all the equipment for $800 which was $25 less than seller was asking for as if they were shipping I'd swallow the cost. Seller made a deal with me and I made arrangements to make 2 payments one upon shipping one upon receipt of goodies all was good.

Two hours ago everything fell apart the seller wasn't talking to me and I couldn't contact them even though we had talked over the phone for well over an hour earlier today. Went back to the website where seller had equipment listed and the sale post was down. Just over Twenty minutes ago finally was contacted by the seller to say seller had sold everything to a local person who went right to their door and took everything at a discounted price.

Needless to say I was ****sed seller didn't honour our agreement and then said it was easier for them to sell local.

Still ****sed not much I can do about it but bitch, whine and moan about it which I have excelled at for the last half hour.

One of the problems living so far away is you have to rely on shipping and often especially in major centres sellers will not ship for various reasons which makes it that more difficult for us that live far away to even have a hope in hell competing with locals and even more so when sellers don't honour the agreement.

Ahh well I'm done whining just had to get it off my chest

[Ram3500]

I think one of life best gifts is the ability to laugh at ones self. I have been lucky enough to laugh at myself frequently the past few years. But today I hit a parked car while pulling out out of a parking spot.
24 years of driving with no accidents but I managed to hit a parked car. Thank you life wait no thank you .

[Dearth]

I think one of life best gifts is the ability to laugh at ones self. I have been lucky enough to laugh at myself frequently the past few years. But today I hit a parked car while pulling out out of a parking spot.
24 years of driving with no accidents but I managed to hit a parked car. Thank you life wait no thank you .

Reminded me of something that happened back in November

I was rear ended by a young lady who was from the lower mainland this winter during our 3 week long -20 cold snap in November and it was hilarious as she had never driven in cold weather ever. She hit me at slow speed and got out and was a hysterical mess as it was -22ish and she had never been in the north during winter and she had no gloves on (this becomes clear in a second) A fellow who saw the accident tried to calm her down and between the two of us we finally figured out that she was petrified as she had no gloves on that if she touched her steering wheel with bare hands that they would freeze to the wheel.

First time for everything I guess. Turns out no damage to my truck small dent in her hood and after calming her down and assuring her that her hands would not freeze to the wheel sent her on her way. There are times that catch you off guard and this was one of them.

[gregzz4]

When construction of a building is complete, why is it not then called a built? ...

[Ram3500]

Me and my family lost a great wonderful boy yesterday. He was only fifteen and he took his own life.Sorry for this sad post but please watch your loved ones for signs of depression I have a huge family and none of us saw this coming. Manny hard days ahead.

[duncangweller]

That's very sad. I have a person very close to me that deals with depression on a huge scale and it something that I worry about every day.

Keep your chin up, there is often nothing that can be done and many people don't see it coming.

My best to you and your family and all his friends.

[xandraescape]

Are we talking about 13 reasons why here? Kidding aside, I guess we should all be sensitive on what the other people around us feels and at the same time take good care of our action. It is always a matter of putting oneself's in someone's shoes.

[hillegom]

I am sorry to hear that.
It is sad when someone with their whole life ahead of them decides that.
It is hard for the people left behind.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Sorry to hear about your loss. All of us feel sad or emotionally drained at some points in our lives, but depression is exponentially worse. It is especially tough for the family members left behind as they try to come to grips with what happened, why, what could they have done different. Our thoughts and prayers are with you at this difficult time.

Anthony

[gregzz4]

Aw jeez Bud - so sad. :hug:

[Dearth]

I've been involved in safety to varying degrees at my workplace over the last 18 yrs and in that time I have seen changes galore some were beauracratic others in response to catastrophic issues (Lakeland and burns lake sawmill explosions) to others being modernized yet one thing has not changed over the 18 years

The incessant moaning, groaning, whining and snivelling of both the employee and employer and generally speaking those in the front line of safety are the most frequent targets of those who bitch moan and groan and in some cases like today you get those that threaten you because they are forced to change

I love safety but when people start to threaten you it makes one wonder why we do safety anyway

People hate change and often lash out at the first point of contact and even though I have a thick skin it does wear one down but then again people hate to be told to do something in other words grown up children who pout

[Dearth]

It’s winter and it’s raining cats and dogs today hell even the lower mainland has more snow than we do atm unusual but still entertaining to see 3 million people panick at the sight of a snow flake its entertainment value for us northerners for sure watching lower mainlanders drive in snow or should I say attempt to drive in snow.

[lockrookie]

Belated merry Christmas and ahead of schedule happy new year.


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[gregzz4]

Me: Post stuff for sale
Member PM: Hey, I want your stuff. Here's my #
Me Text Member: Hey, it's me. Blah, blah blah blah, blah etc.
:yawn: 1 day
Me PM Member: Hey, did you get my text?
:yawn:

At least I haven't had any 'no shows' yet :rolleyes:

[Craigdillman]

Me: post some stuff up on Kijiji ..2$
Other person : ... is this still for sale ...
Me: yes ( that’s why the add is still up man)
Other person : ok would you concisely taking 1$ for it and delivering it
Me: smashed face on wall , no


Every Kijiji email thread

[Delphinus]

It's not a whole lot better on the facebook marketplace groups. I couldn't even give away something for FREE because it was just person after person of no-shows, or "can you please hold it for 3 weeks because life is busy?" and so on. After going down the chain of 4 or 5 people I simply gave up.

[Dearth]

Same here I had a tank for sale lots of interested people bunch said they would be at my place so and so day and time wait nobody showed had well over a dozen people do this to me finally gave it away to a friend who wanted it but couldn’t afford it and I just wanted it gone

[chizerbunoi]

I post stuff for free and they still ask for delivery. I say I can

[spit.fire]

thats why i just throw stuff out now.... people want to low ball me... ill throw it out, no shows, i throw it out

[Ram3500]

Tank is crashing :neutral: sps have been looking off for a few weeks. Went to Vegas last Monday hoping thing would get better. When I got back on Friday things still not looking snappy. Found a battery in my ato last night that explains a lot. It’s been in there since my sisters kids put in there on Christmas Day. They are not invited to dinner next year.

[Myka]

Tank is crashing :neutral: sps have been looking off for a few weeks. Went to Vegas last Monday hoping thing would get better. When I got back on Friday things still not looking snappy. Found a battery in my ato last night that explains a lot. It’s been in there since my sisters kids put in there on Christmas Day. They are not invited to dinner next year.


Oh noooo... :(

[titus]

Hello

I hope things will recover after lots of water changes.

Titus

[gregzz4]

Tank is crashing :neutral: sps have been looking off for a few weeks. Went to Vegas last Monday hoping thing would get better. When I got back on Friday things still not looking snappy. Found a battery in my ato last night that explains a lot. It’s been in there since my sisters kids put in there on Christmas Day. They are not invited to dinner next year.
Oh crap. Carbon every few days and water changes

[WarDog]

Tank is crashing :neutral: sps have been looking off for a few weeks. Went to Vegas last Monday hoping thing would get better. When I got back on Friday things still not looking snappy. Found a battery in my ato last night that explains a lot. It’s been in there since my sisters kids put in there on Christmas Day. They are not invited to dinner next year.

Crappy. Let us know if you need anything Ian!

[Ram3500]

Thanks Guys things look like they are calming down. I really want to post a picture of a huge dead colony because who doesn’t want to see dead corals. unfortunately I can’t figure out how to post from Imgur from my phone. Any one want to do a photo step by step how to post for a idiot. Can reef needs to see more photos of dead corals so the fellow peps won’t try to enhance coral growth with energiser batteries.

[Dearth]

I sold a bunch of older aquarium equipment to a buyer 2 weeks ago (shipping his cost) and I got the package back yesterday (rts as person did not pay for package) messaged buyer who said he never agreed to shipping at his cost to which I resent the agreement that he understood it was at buyers cost to which he denied ever agreeing to it and claimed to never of seen that even though I sent all the replies where he agreed to it

End result got the equipment back told the buyer that I wouldn’t be dealing with him anymore and I would make sure that the local community knew about this so that they would be aware of his indiscretion

Some people ....

[WarDog]

I sold a bunch of older aquarium equipment to a buyer 2 weeks ago (shipping his cost) and I got the package back yesterday (rts as person did not pay for package) messaged buyer who said he never agreed to shipping at his cost to which I resent the agreement that he understood it was at buyers cost to which he denied ever agreeing to it and claimed to never of seen that even though I sent all the replies where he agreed to it

End result got the equipment back told the buyer that I wouldn’t be dealing with him anymore and I would make sure that the local community knew about this so that they would be aware of his indiscretion

Some people ....

I would have charged him a 15% restocking fee.

[gregzz4]

Thanks Guys things look like they are calming down. I really want to post a picture of a huge dead colony because who doesn’t want to see dead corals. unfortunately I can’t figure out how to post from Imgur from my phone. Any one want to do a photo step by step how to post for a idiot. Can reef needs to see more photos of dead corals so the fellow peps won’t try to enhance coral growth with energiser batteries.
https://help.imgur.com/hc/en-us/articles/210076663-Upload-Images

[gregzz4]

I would have charged him a 15% restocking fee. :twised:

[Dash]

Omg tell me about it. Going through it now and it’s tragic. Grrr...
Just yesterday & today, in addition to the usual crazy CL respondents, I had 4 “definite” coming-right-after-work guys only to have them fall through. The last guy, after my husband offered to help him move it into his van, said he heard you can’t use a tank for freshwater after it’s had saltwater. What. Sadly one of them was a canreefer who, after commiserating with me about how difficult people are, proceeded to offer me a lowball price after he knew the previous guy bailed on me. Truly, I would rather give it away at that point.

[Madreefer]

I find it very odd that when I bump my for sale post it never goes to the top. Hmmm

[WarDog]

I find it very odd that when I bump my for sale post it never goes to the top. Hmmm

You need to actually bump it first.

Might be a conspiracy.

[Madreefer]

You need to actually bump it first.

Might be a conspiracy.

Haha yup and it lasts just a couple of hours. But thanks for the bump haha

[Dearth]

Took an expensive watch to have battery replaced but due to its size about an inch and half across most of the jewelry stores I went too wouldn’t touch it because they didn’t have the tools to open such a large backing plate.

Finally got a jeweller that could do it and when they opened it I got a surprise when the store clerk told me that there was 3 batteries in the watch one battery for each function on the watch. Total cost was 55 dollars and learned a new lesson about big fancy watches