Random Thought Thread

[reefwars]

denny i think forum shopping is a big part of online shopping. there are groupbuys that come up for new vendors that may one day become sponsers if they can get the clientele, which brings income. (mad jelly/big show) these are two shops that i come to know from canreef.




haha i thought same

True but a quick google search found these vendors and sure they may become sponsors in the future but they were already members on canreef before and could have done so at anytime , I'm sure they have their reasons

I'm all for forumns trust me lol but from a business point of view the money going in has to bring a certain profit if it doesn't then it's time wasted and money.

Yes not all stores use the forumns to its potential and each vendor has their own reasons for joining up , believe me no business is going to flush money down the drain they have reasons for sponsoring .

Ill always be a canreef member I'm into the hobby both financially and emotionally and I'm in it to far to just duck out I treat this site like a full time job first thing in the morn and last thing at night I do lol would you believe I get sometimes 50 emails a day, I've seen some changes though and I look st the number of members now compared to when I joined.....not a whole lot more its always been in the eight thousand and I think we can do better, more members means more business for sponsors , more business means money well spent, lately there hasn't been a whole lot of new peeps active on the site and I think this has to do with some of the major stores dripping out let's face it the reason most of us found canreef was through either a lfs or respected member, if both of those are gone then so the member numbers drop.

Part of this is also online business don't have that face to face communication so referencing to a forumn doesn't happen :(

[The Grizz]

Still the three of us here, but Tony has some stuff in life going on, and Christy just had her second little one, so she's tied up elsewhere for the most part. Both still manage items behind the scenes, but I just have more computer time. Doug has helped for years, but a recent events have pulled him away. Ryan, no idea. I think he's been abducted by aliens.
I had actually decided to pick you, Denny, as my replacement, but then you joined Dave and a conflict arose. Keener is part time on some forums, but he's too smart to take my job :)
As for the business side of things, while some are leaving, new ones are coming on board. It's always been that way. I have no idea what the rates are, I didn't know they went up, and I haven't heard any reasons for changes. We'll have to wait and see how things go. I know for Titus, this is simply a business, and if it fails to earn him a profit, I'd imagine he'd shut down or sell.

Looking for a new mod? I'm in..........

[reefwars]

Looking for a new mod? I'm in..........

No bears allowed lol ;pppppp

Joking buddy you'd make a great mom;)

Darn auto correct I meant mod:twised:

[Phil]

No bears allowed lol ;pppppp

Joking buddy you'd make a great mom;)

Darn auto correct I meant mod:twised:


Lol "momma bear"

[The Grizz]

No bears allowed lol ;pppppp

Joking buddy you'd make a great mom;)

Darn auto correct I meant mod:twised:

Now if I could just get you to answer my text's & the occasional pm. :wink:

Lol "momma bear"

My wife's not a canreefer :lol:

[kien]

Ryan, no idea. I think he's been abducted by aliens.

I will ask him in a couple of weeks when I see him.. Y U NO CAN REEF RYAN?!

[The Grizz]

I will ask him in a couple of weeks when I see him.. Y U NO CAN REEF RYAN?!

Ask who? Ryan or the alien that abducted him :lol:

[kien]

Ask who? Ryan or the alien that abducted him :lol:

Actually, there was more than one but the details aren't important at this point..

[reefwars]

Now if I could just get you to answer my text's & the occasional pm. :wink:



My wife's not a canreefer :lol:

Re-text me lol with the renos coming to an end at the new shop I honestly haven't seen my phone in days lol can't wait to be back to my "normal " life :pp

I have a ton of emails pending like a ton lol I've bysted my phone 3 times this month like who goes through 3 phones lol even dropped one in my tank I'm considering not even getting another one now I'm scared lol:pp

Text me if you don't get a reply text me again lol I have short term memory I mean to text everyone back at lunch or offtimes but I get distracted easily........oh look a squirrel!!!

[The Grizz]

Actually, there was more than one but the details aren't important at this point..

Always is.........wish they would come here & flatten some of the 4' weeds growing in my 2.5 acre field.

[kien]

.. even dropped one in my tank I'm considering not even getting another one now I'm scared lol:pp.

Dude, get one of these (http://www.lifeproof.com/en/). Thank me later.

[The Grizz]

Re-text me lol with the renos coming to an end at the new shop I honestly haven't seen my phone in days lol can't wait to be back to my "normal " life :pp

I have a ton of emails pending like a ton lol I've bysted my phone 3 times this month like who goes through 3 phones lol even dropped one in my tank I'm considering not even getting another one now I'm scared lol:pp

Text me if you don't get a reply text me again lol I have short term memory I mean to text everyone back at lunch or offtimes but I get distracted easily........oh look a squirrel!!!

Get an iPhone with a LifeProof case, mines been to the bottom of my pool twice & dry as a popcorn fart. Also as a welder the grinding dust would distroy my phone in month but no long with LifeProof.

Just need to get that replacement power supply so I can fill the 300 :biggrin:

[Jeff000]

Who is the owner of the forum? Could someone shoot me his contact?

[Delphinus]

Would be nice for titus to explain it maybe then we can see why..

Has anyone else noticed the drop in mods as well? When i started with canreef all the mods were active now its just brad i feel bad he does an amazing job and hes the guy holding this site together.

I am here, just not chatty. Been doing some camping and stuff away from a keyboard. You should try it sometime!

[kien]

hmm.. I have three 5 gallon pales of chemicals coming in next week from BRS. My office receptionist will be receiving it most likely. I hope she doesn't call the Feds.. but then she's used to receiving random boxes marked, "LIVE ANIMALS" with my name on it so it might be OK. Stay tuned!

[jorjef]

Can't believe it!!! My wife has banned me from using her Facebook account to join the Canreef group on Facebook. What up with that!

[The Grizz]

Can't believe it!!! My wife has banned me from using her Facebook account to join the Canreef group on Facebook. What up with that!

:lol::lol::lol::lol: banned again!! And I think this one will stick :twised:

[jorjef]

:lol::lol::lol::lol: banned again!! And I think this one will stick :twised:

I can't afford a third wife so I better tread lightly. :redface:

[JDigital]

I don't see why the responsibility of paying the bills of the website should fall on the Vender Sponsors alone. We all use this site for our benefit/knowledge.

If keeping Canreef around means introducing a membership fee so be it.

Make it tiered and depending which tier you fall grants you permissions for the forum.

As an example. Prices are just pulled out of my arse. Same with the per month thing.. just an example.

$5/month Tier 1 - General browsing
$10/month Tier 2 - General browsing/Post a Build Thread/Browsing Marketplace
$15/month Tier 3 - Full Access. Post/Make Threads in Marketplace, etc.


If the site owner doesn't want to incorporate a Membership Fee that's fine, but maybe consider a Paypal/Fundit Donation link somewhere that is clearly visible. Some people may not donate at all and that's fine but I bet some people would donate monthly, even if it was only $5-10. It would be extra income to help offset costs and take some of the responsibility off the Vendors who choose to be on here and help keep their costs down.

We have that sort of system on my Gaming Clans forum and it works well.

[Myka]

Why is everyone talking about CanReef "not being around" or such. Is this just rumor from the coffee room (Lounge)? I haven't seen anyone with behind the scenes knowledge acknowledging any sort of lack of funds.

[jorjef]

Chicken little sydrome.

[Myka]

:lol: I think so...

[lastlight]

Denny sorta does have little chicken legs come to think of it.

[Myka]

A few main vendors pulling out is a good way to force Titus to lower the fees to encourage more vendors to join. Online vendors are more likely to pay the fees because their sales tend to spread over a larger area. LFS outside of BC and AB would probably never see the $1600 per year vendor fee ever come back to them because the main member base is BC and AB. However, we've all been seeing more Ontario activity in the last couple years, so this is great! :) I believe Ontario members are mainly on RC where I think the vendor fees are around $3000 per year. If we can continue to get more Ontario activity at CanReef there could be a huge surge of Ontario vendors.

[lastlight]

which is good we need access to some of the candy out there. i think it's the vanacker trickle down effect.

[kien]

If we can continue to get more Ontario activity at CanReef there could be a huge surge of Ontario vendors.

This would be great because I'm mad jelly of all the nice stuff they got out there.

[thmh]

Oh hello there! In the past month I've notice quite a few of us moving over to canreef! Soo let keep up the good work!

~Tony

[The Grizz]

Oh hello there! In the past month I've notice quite a few of us moving over to canreef!

~Tony

Indeed Tony and we are all happy to have you and the other new vendors aboard.

Just wish Reef Wholesale sold to the public as they have some KILLER stuff too.

[The Grizz]

Speaking of KILLER.........wish my pain killers would kick in so I could actually walk today.

[Aquattro]

Denny sorta does have little chicken legs come to think of it.

I could send him a decent leg workout?

[kien]

I could send him a decent leg workout?

and some of your chicken too maybe.

[Phil]

I could send him a decent leg workout?


A hug may work better

[Aquattro]

and some of your chicken too maybe.

Not sharing food. I only have 2 freezers of chicken.

[kien]

Not sharing food. I only have 2 freezers of chicken.

you mean you actually store all that chicken?! I just assumed that you ate it all in one sitting.

[Aquattro]

you mean you actually store all that chicken?! I just assumed that you ate it all in one sitting.

No, little bit each day. :)

[jorjef]

Facebookbaysidepics

[daplatapus]

Here's an interesting GoPro view... Hopefully no one knows what this is like in person...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81DCfygJWwU&feature=player_embedded

[jorjef]

I am a slave to the potato chip and must try all the new flavours....... Run, don't walk if you see Grill cheese and ketchup. I can't even find the words to describe.

[madchild]

I don't see why the responsibility of paying the bills of the website should fall on the Vender Sponsors alone. We all use this site for our benefit/knowledge.

If keeping Canreef around means introducing a membership fee so be it.

Make it tiered and depending which tier you fall grants you permissions for the forum.

As an example. Prices are just pulled out of my arse. Same with the per month thing.. just an example.

$5/month Tier 1 - General browsing
$10/month Tier 2 - General browsing/Post a Build Thread/Browsing Marketplace
$15/month Tier 3 - Full Access. Post/Make Threads in Marketplace, etc.


If the site owner doesn't want to incorporate a Membership Fee that's fine, but maybe consider a Paypal/Fundit Donation link somewhere that is clearly visible. Some people may not donate at all and that's fine but I bet some people would donate monthly, even if it was only $5-10. It would be extra income to help offset costs and take some of the responsibility off the Vendors who choose to be on here and help keep their costs down.

We have that sort of system on my Gaming Clans forum and it works well.

Bringing on a monthly user fee for general browsing would likely result in a 80-90% drop in users immediately.

I agree that it should not be the sole responsibility of the vendor sponsors to keep the site running. I understand that CanReef is a business, however costs on running a forum of this size (relatively small) is quite inexpensive.

For 6 years I ran a forum with over 50k members and it cost me $50 per month for basic site hosting and bandwidth. Although I did not run the site to make profit, there was an obvious need to raise funds to sustain the site.
I used a simple formula to financially support the site

General Users: free
Browsing Marketplace: free
Posting threads on marketplace: $10/year
VIP membership (gave access to post in market, and site image hosting, acces to VIP forums) :$20/yr

This was more than enough to cover the costs and saw little to no user decline. Excess monies were used to upgrade site features and do other things like have giveaways.

Should CanReef want to bring on more sponsors or bring back sponsors, then couple this method with lower sponsor fees.

You'd be surprised how much money you can bring in with such an simple system.

[banditpowdercoat]

Like site's of my other interests, who started charging fee's. I won't be paying. Just saying. The internet is not about making money. If you need money to run the site, that's what sponsors and payed advertisemts etc. And I DO pay on some of my other sites for Advertisement/selling rights. NOT for browsing and chatting and sharing knowledge. That should NEVER be charged for

[Myka]

The Boursin I'm currently eating expired on Dec 2, 2012. Hmm...why has it not gone bad? :neutral:

[Aquattro]

Deleted 10 spam accounts in the last 2 hours. They're on a roll today! f'ers.

[The Grizz]

Deleted 10 spam accounts in the last 2 hours. They're on a roll today! f'ers.

Nice to see your not hiding on the CanReef Facebook page anymore.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

[Aquattro]

Nice to see your not hiding on the CanReef Facebook page anymore.


Got lonely in there..

[kien]

Nice to see your not hiding on the CanReef Facebook page anymore.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

Canreef has a FB page?!?!

[The Grizz]

Canreef has a FB page?!?!

Sorry Facebook GROUP!! TwitterFace!!

[spit.fire]

Best thing I've ever done... Debt consolidation

Went from 23% interest to 3.25%

Finally starting to learn what it is like to have good credit and new it will be a lot easier to get that mortgage I've been wanting

Biggest regret in life ATM is having been a dumb teenager when it came to money.

But hey, if I don't make mistakes how am I gonna learn?

Ps: tapatalk 2 sucks

BRING BACK THE ORIGIONAL

[Proteus]

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd400/titus991/null-72.png

[thmh]

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd400/titus991/null-72.png

Lmao!

~Tony

[michika]

^^^ Lol.

I'd like some wages with some real purchasing power please. I've been redoing my annual budget and yeah, cost of living is really really high. I cannot get over how expensive it is to put a roof over my head in this city (Calgary). This isn't sustainable for society.

[Magickiwi]

^^^ Lol.

I'd like some wages with some real purchasing power please. I've been redoing my annual budget and yeah, cost of living is really really high. I cannot get over how expensive it is to put a roof over my head in this city (Calgary). This isn't sustainable for society.

You need to shack up with some big burly aquarist. Split the cost of living in two.

[spit.fire]

Well today sucks... Had my leg run over by a 6000lb wheel assembly for a trailer. Gotta love waiting in emerg

Not looking forward to dealing with this tomorrow as I'm the primary first aid attendant

Our secondary sucks, I had to walk him through what to do...

Based on my secondary survey of say a lot of bruised muscles, torn tendon and alot of paperwork tomorrow

Thank god for ride on lawn mowers as the lawn needs a good mowing this weekend

[JDigital]

You need to shack up with some big burly aquarist. Split the cost of living in two.

:lol:... You know she's not single right? :wink:

[Magickiwi]

:lol:... You know she's not single right? :wink:

I am only burly not big. Also taken too. :)

[spit.fire]

Well today sucks... Had my leg run over by a 6000lb wheel assembly for a trailer. Gotta love waiting in emerg

Not looking forward to dealing with this tomorrow as I'm the primary first aid attendant

Our secondary sucks, I had to walk him through what to do...

Based on my secondary survey of say a lot of bruised muscles, torn tendon and alot of paperwork tomorrow

Thank god for ride on lawn mowers as the lawn needs a good mowing this weekend

Update: broke my fibula in my left leg and sprained my knee, and some muscle damage to my thigh(everywhere on it) and I can't lift my foot off the ground under its own power

[daplatapus]

Du'oh! That sucks man. Well, at least you'll get some time to sit in front of your tank... :)

[IanWR]

Lord that sounds painful! How long is the healing process expected to be? Do you get/have to be off work that whole time? I just hope you come out of this without some permanent damage. :(

[michika]

Update: broke my fibula in my left leg and sprained my knee, and some muscle damage to my thigh(everywhere on it) and I can't lift my foot off the ground under its own power

Don't you know its hard to work on your tank when you're broken? Geez man, sorry for your luck.

Hope you heal up quick.

[JDigital]

Update: broke my fibula in my left leg and sprained my knee, and some muscle damage to my thigh(everywhere on it) and I can't lift my foot off the ground under its own power

Ouch! Take it easy and heal up quickly!

[Misses.ReefWars]

Dude, get one of these (http://www.lifeproof.com/en/). Thank me later.

ALL I GOTTA SAY IS LOL!!!!

[Delphinus]

I'd like some wages with some real purchasing power please. I've been redoing my annual budget and yeah, cost of living is really really high. I cannot get over how expensive it is to put a roof over my head in this city (Calgary). This isn't sustainable for society.

+1 .. I kind of wonder how far things will go before something gives.

[michika]

+1 .. I kind of wonder how far things will go before something gives.

It's actually pretty scary. I'm one half of a two person household and we both bring home decent coin and at the end of the day after all the bills are paid and money is put away for retirement my thought is now what? There isn't much money left to do anything without taking on additional debt or playing Keeping up with the Jones'.

I watch my peers get raises and bonuses and run out and spend them on bigger houses and newer cars and I wonder how I can't avoid this new normal of debt, debt, debt.

I feel most saddened though for my female peers as I'm becoming more and more aware of how this is negatively impacting their opportunities to start families. I have three friends who have all cited their lagging "middle" class incomes as their barrier to being able to consider children. It's really hard to function on a single income here and the apparentness of such is creeping into my daily life more and more.

[kien]

I wonder how I can't avoid this new normal of debt, debt, debt.

You can simply not go out and buy a new house and/or car :biggrin: In other words, who the frak cares with the Jones' are doing. Do your own thang :biggrin:

[michika]

You can simply not go out and buy a new house and/or car :biggrin: In other words, who the frak cares with the Jones' are doing. Do your own thang :biggrin:

Agreed, and I don't, but wow is it ever the trend at least downtown. Although it is often sometimes the trend is to forget to check your skirt isn't tucked into your panties though...so yeah... :lol:

[spit.fire]

Du'oh! That sucks man. Well, at least you'll get some time to sit in front of your tank... :)

I still go to work on light duty

[spit.fire]

Lord that sounds painful! How long is the healing process expected to be? Do you get/have to be off work that whole time? I just hope you come out of this without some permanent damage. :(

Shouldn't be anything permanent, the muscle damage hurts more than the fractured bone especially in the pelvic area. ATM my muscles arnt strong enough to move my leg

[kien]

Agreed, and I don't, but wow is it ever the trend at least downtown. Although it is often sometimes the trend is to forget to check your skirt isn't tucked into your panties though...so yeah... :lol:

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that cost of living is going up a lot faster than it traditionally has, for various reasons. I do also see the same trend that you mentioned about keeping up with the Jones'. Last year one of our friends purchased a camping trailer. Then this year another friend bought one but a much more expensive one with more bells and whistles. Now the original friend who got one wants to sell theirs to upgrade. At a dinner table last weekend both friends asked me when I would be getting a camping trailer. WTF?? I'm perfectly happy with my 15 year old camping TENT, thank you very much. :biggrin:

[Dearth]

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that cost of living is going up a lot faster than it traditionally has, for various reasons. I do also see the same trend that you mentioned about keeping up with the Jones'. Last year one of our friends purchased a camping trailer. Then this year another friend bought one but a much more expensive one with more bells and whistles. Now the original friend who got one wants to sell theirs to upgrade. At a dinner table last weekend both friends asked me when I would be getting a camping trailer. WTF?? I'm perfectly happy with my 15 year old camping TENT, thank you very much. :biggrin:

The new term is called "Working Poor" because it is so easy to get virtually anything you want on credit and the problem is most families on a dual income average $85-120,000 per year which in therory should be enough for most people to live off of but mortgage, usually 2-4 credit cards, line of credit, Store credit/debit cards, vacations, loans and your standard bills all add up to the point where you can't afford to live henceforth the tem "working poor".

Sadly I know so many people like this including my brother and his wife they think they are being money smart but have already declared bankrupcy once and are close to it again yet its not their fault its the banks fault as they tell me

[kien]

Sadly I know so many people like this

It kinda boggles my mind actually. Excuse me for playing the 'old-man card', but when I was growing up and I didn't have enough money to buy that new G.I. Joe super aircraft carrier, I did one of two things. 1. Accepted that I can't afford it and move on. 2. Asked my buddies if I could do their newspaper routes while they were on vacation so that I could pick up some extra cash. I wonder if part of the problem is that some people are blurring the lines between needs and wants. If you focus on living with what you need, life isn't actually all that uncomfortable.

For the record, I am an immigrant whos parents came to Canada with absolutely nothing but the shirts on their backs and young children in tow. I know all about living at the poverty level while mostly all of my peers lived well above the poverty level.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Sorry to hear about your leg my friend. Hope you heal well & fast Tyler.

BTW, got the rabbitfish yesterday & look good.

Anthony

[lastlight]

downgraded my house, truck and finally my tank. problem solved. now quit your whining!

[jorjef]

North American culture = wants over needs. We views needs as owed to us and wants as are right. Those beliefs will only intensify over time until something or someone smacks it off our face. Hope I'm long gone when it happens.

[Seth81]

If this world was populated by people who only ever bought what they needed the world economy and technological development would grind to a halt! lol... obviously that is an extreme, but people pushing their budgets helps to drive the economy.

I do agree though that people need to learn to live within their means, I have a lot of nice toys, but I can afford them. Why can I afford them? Because I work my a$$ off!! Some people don't work hard and still expect to drive those $70k+ cars and have expensive homes. I think the parents of those kinds of people did not install the value of a dollar into their children.

Also, inflation is undeniable... if you didn't get a 2.3% raise this year (in alberta), then your effective income dropped.


It kinda boggles my mind actually. Excuse me for playing the 'old-man card', but when I was growing up and I didn't have enough money to buy that new G.I. Joe super aircraft carrier, I did one of two things. 1. Accepted that I can't afford it and move on. 2. Asked my buddies if I could do their newspaper routes while they were on vacation so that I could pick up some extra cash. I wonder if part of the problem is that some people are blurring the lines between needs and wants. If you focus on living with what you need, life isn't actually all that uncomfortable.

For the record, I am an immigrant whos parents came to Canada with absolutely nothing but the shirts on their backs and young children in tow. I know all about living at the poverty level while mostly all of my peers lived well above the poverty level.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

It kinda boggles my mind actually. Excuse me for playing the 'old-man card', but when I was growing up and I didn't have enough money to buy that new G.I. Joe super aircraft carrier, I did one of two things. 1. Accepted that I can't afford it and move on. 2. Asked my buddies if I could do their newspaper routes while they were on vacation so that I could pick up some extra cash. I wonder if part of the problem is that some people are blurring the lines between needs and wants. If you focus on living with what you need, life isn't actually all that uncomfortable.

For the record, I am an immigrant whos parents came to Canada with absolutely nothing but the shirts on their backs and young children in tow. I know all about living at the poverty level while mostly all of my peers lived well above the poverty level.

I have to agree. I try to be good with my money, which is one reason I love Craigslist, and the main "luxury" expenditures are my tanks and eating out. But I do a lot of transactions with fellow reefers and use Entertainment coupons or Groupon-type vouchers for eating out.

Yet living in Metro Vancouver, with cost of living as high or higher than Calgary, I can see Michika's point about the "working poor".

BTW, I am also an immigrant whose parents borrowed money from relatives to move to Canada with 3 kids in tow and I had to wear hand-me-downs for most of my elementary school years.

I think the schools/parents need to teach their kids/young people about how to spend wisely and not on so much wants as opposed to needs. I have friends/relatives who go on trips all the time and then complain they are always in debt. Paying for vacations with your credit cards is just insane and a good way to dig a debt hole they will find almost impossible to get out of.

A friend of mine just went around the world, 4 months, 28 countries on his credit cards! OUCH!!!

Anthony

[Delphinus]

Also, inflation is undeniable... if you didn't get a 2.3% raise this year (in alberta), then your effective income dropped.

Yep. And I'm sure that at least for some, you can add "again" to the end of that sentence. Maybe not so much in the oilpatch, I don't know as I'm not in it, but for some the cost of living is increasing far faster than the earnings and it's been that way for quite a few years now. I'm happy that the oilpatch produces prosperity for some but it's a double sided sword (or whatever the metaphor is) because it drives the costs of things up faster and that affects everyone. My household income today is more or less the same it was 10 years ago, but the costs of everything that is being paid for - and I mean just simple things, like groceries, gas, insurance, etc. - is several orders of magnitude different in that timeframe. Add on top of that the optionals it gets even worse. The choices are "earn more" or "spend less". Neither option may be all that straightforward though. Hard to say.

[Delphinus]

A friend of mine just went around the world, 4 months, 28 countries on his credit cards! OUCH!!!


I'm sure that was a fantastic experience though! Haha, but yeah, if all on CC's then .. yeah, wow, ouch. "Good luck with that."

I would agree that it does seem like people are getting a little casual about debt. That's a bit scary too in its own right..

[Seth81]

The choices are "earn more" or "spend less". Neither option may be all that straightforward though. Hard to say.

You forgot one option... move East! lol

[Delphinus]

How far east? :lol:

[Seth81]

How far east? :lol:

I say keep driving till you find Blue Star beer!

[kien]

If this world was populated by people who only ever bought what they needed the world economy and technological development would grind to a halt!

You are absolutely right, and therein lies our great social irony/paradox of our civilization :biggrin: You can easily see examples of this around the world. Third world countries vs First World, developed vs developing, Communist vs Capitalist vs Socialist, etc. The third world/developing countries are used to not having luxuries so there is little to no economic drive to develop. On the other end of the spectrum first world nations have everything and continue to strive for and want more thus fiercely driving further development. Depending on who you talk to, either scenario can be good or bad.

Unfortunately no one has the right answer. In fact, there probably isn't one. That is unless some miracle happens and we all wake up and collectively say, "Hey, you know what, I don't really want anything but I'm prefectly happy to go to work and do something for the good of all mankind." Star Trek anyone?

[Delphinus]

Star Trek anyone?

Sign/beam me up! :lol:

[Seth81]

Unfortunately no one has the right answer. In fact, there probably isn't one. That is unless some miracle happens and we all wake up and collectively say, "Hey, you know what, I don't really want anything but I'm prefectly happy to go to work and do something for the good of all mankind." Star Trek anyone?


If I had to put up with nearly getting killed on a weekly basis, I better be getting paid!!

[kien]

If I had to put up with nearly getting killed on a weekly basis, I better be getting paid!!

part of the Star Trek utopian philosophy is that no one would need to get paid. We would all be provided with everything we desired so long as everyone was simply happy to do their part. This would include strapping on gravity boots and dangling from a half constructed spaceship as you welded in its panels while orbiting the planet. :mrgreen:

[Seth81]

part of the Star Trek utopian philosophy is that no one would need to get paid. We would all be provided with everything we desired so long as everyone was simply happy to do their part. This would include strapping on gravity boots and dangling from a half constructed spaceship as you welded in its panels while orbiting the planet. :mrgreen:

Yeah I know, I am a pretty big TNG fan, but if the reality was that we had replicators and seemlingy endless power, you think that the Enterprise would have a pretty high turn over...cause people would just be like "You want me to put on the red shirt and beam down to a hostile planet??? Naw screw this, I got a date with the Holodeck see you fools later!:razz:"

[kien]

Yeah I know, I am a pretty big TNG fan, but if the reality was that we had replicators and seemlingy endless power, you think that the Enterprise would have a pretty high turn over...cause people would just be like "You want me to put on the red shirt and beam down to a hostile planet??? Naw screw this, I got a date with the Holodeck see you fools later!:razz:"

You're right, it's very hard to imagine such a way of life existing. It really would require a HUGE paradigm shift on all levels of society. Stranger things have happened though. :biggrin: It may be hard for many of us to fathom today but there was a time when women could not vote. When slavery was normal and accepted. When it was Ok to eat gluten. :lol:

[Aquattro]

When it was Ok to eat gluten. :lol:

you're just making that one up!! Who would ever eat that stuff??

[daplatapus]

part of the Star Trek utopian philosophy is that no one would need to get paid. We would all be provided with everything we desired so long as everyone was simply happy to do their part. This would include strapping on gravity boots and dangling from a half constructed spaceship as you welded in its panels while orbiting the planet. :mrgreen:

Isn't that kind of how communism started? :)

[Phil]

Isn't that kind of how communism started? :)

Yes but there wasent enough stuff to go around so u ended up with the extremely poor

[Reef Pilot]

If you focus on living with what you need, life isn't actually all that uncomfortable.


The Kien is a wise man,....not just a good reefer.

I read a book called "Your Money or Your Life" a number of years ago. It's about achieving financial independence and "fulfillment", and the path there is not just about making more money... Has a lot of great advice and perhaps may help some sharpen their focus on achieving their life goals.

[The Grizz]

strapping on gravity boots and dangling from a half constructed spaceship as you welded in its panels while orbiting the planet. :mrgreen:

Sign me up, size 9 :biggrin:

[daplatapus]

Sign me up, size 9 :biggrin:

I bet your back would feel better too :D

[The Grizz]

I bet your back would feel better too :D

Thankfully my back is feeling much better after 6 Chiro appointments, 3 messages & 4 days of ice packs.

[titus]

Hello,

Guys I see comments about profit / lose interest / shut down / selling, etc. While I have said so in the past but guess it's been a while since the site has been around for a while also. I feel no pinch of having to sell or shut down if this turns out to be out of my pocket. End of story.

And this is not a forum with which I'll toy around with. And no we can't host it for $50 a month. We started out that way and have already expanded beyond that long time ago. I don't know of $50 sites that will do triple backup between North America and Asia with quadruple data redundancy, or have to ship our own firewall to the data center because that's how serious we are with the infrastructure.

For the last 3 years since I started my new job I have been trying to do either an upgrade to vBulletin so we can add more features (bought vBulletin 4 CMS before it came out) or introduce new functionalities on top of a pure forum. We deployed it to the UAT section but didn't went through everything or felt happy with the work so I dropped the idea of going live with it. The point is if I'm not happy with it I'm not comfortable to let it go live. Unfortunately my current job hasn't been that facilitating (on Tuesday I left work at 2:30 am and I start quite early) either.

Titus

[jorjef]

It was the acorn.

[Magickiwi]

Have you ever worked with someone that you so desperately wanted to punch in the back of the head?

[daplatapus]

Have you ever worked with someone that you so desperately wanted to punch in the back of the head?

Yup. :(

[Proteus]

Have you ever worked with someone that you so desperately wanted to punch in the back of the head?

Nope. I'd rather they see it coming ;)

[FishyFishy!]

Nope. I'd rather they see it coming ;)


Hahahahaha me too. Nothing better than seeing the fear on their face when the impending doom they are about to face becomes a reality to them!

[JDigital]

I want to punch my iPhone in the face! Stupid piece of garbage refuses to update any of my apps! Just sits there, "Waiting". Waiting for what?!?! Update my damn apps FFS! :bad-word:

[michika]

My household income today is more or less the same it was 10 years ago, but the costs of everything that is being paid for - and I mean just simple things, like groceries, gas, insurance, etc. - is several orders of magnitude different in that timeframe. Add on top of that the optionals it gets even worse. The choices are "earn more" or "spend less". Neither option may be all that straightforward though. Hard to say.

^^ This is pretty much exactly what I was getting at.

I don't play keeping up with the Joneses I learned a long long time ago that its not worth it. I found out a couple months before leaving for post-secondary that my parents weren't going to help me out and without the option of student loans my only recourse was to work AND go to school at the same time. I'm a very money conscious person now, kind of the result of being poverty level or below for much of my post-secondary career. I was lucky enough though to discover reefing after I'd gotten a little more settled financially. I've also learned you can only downsize so much and give up so much before you've crossed some arbitrary line that society will think you "weird".

I watch my peers literally run out the day their bonuses or stock options come available to spend it on new cars and fancy tech. Then again I also watch the entry level people struggle with their much smaller (if any) bonuses and I see the same thing happening on a smaller scale - the rush to spend.

This commentary has been popping up more and more often within my circle of friends and it was pretty interesting to see the commentary this generated.

[Reef Pilot]

^^ This is pretty much exactly what I was getting at.

I don't play keeping up with the Joneses I learned a long long time ago that its not worth it. I found out a couple months before leaving for post-secondary that my parents weren't going to help me out and without the option of student loans my only recourse was to work AND go to school at the same time. I'm a very money conscious person now, kind of the result of being poverty level or below for much of my post-secondary career. I was lucky enough though to discover reefing after I'd gotten a little more settled financially. I've also learned you can only downsize so much and give up so much before you've crossed some arbitrary line that society will think you "weird".

I watch my peers literally run out the day their bonuses or stock options come available to spend it on new cars and fancy tech. Then again I also watch the entry level people struggle with their much smaller (if any) bonuses and I see the same thing happening on a smaller scale - the rush to spend.

This commentary has been popping up more and more often within my circle of friends and it was pretty interesting to see the commentary this generated.

I've been to this party, too. I had the bad luck of being on the tail end of the boomers demographic. So when I got out of school, they beat me to it, and got all the good jobs first. Same with housing, prices all went up before I could buy. And then finally when I did, got hit with high interest rates, and falling house prices. So, I would like to be sympathetic, but...

Having said that, economies go through cycles, for sure, with jobs, wage growth, and housing booms/busts. Most of these are beyond our control, and best we can do is be lucky with our timing.

But what is within our control, are the jobs/business we choose and what we do with whatever opportunities are presented to us. If you really want to get ahead then choose a business or job where your personal efforts and merits are rewarded. Don't get caught up in politics or peer envy. In the end, you will be assessed and rewarded based on your own performance. And always, always, always, try to help others around you, and not yourself. If you try to get ahead on the backs of others, that will always backfire, and just ruin your reputation and future (and you will be miserable anyway).

I was very "lucky" in my career, and managed to retire early, and now can fully enjoy life with family, hobbies (like reefing), travel, etc. Having said that, I never had to sacrifice anything or deprive myself or my family along the way.

[Seth81]

But what is within our control, are the jobs/business we choose and what we do with whatever opportunities are presented to us. If you really want to get ahead then choose a business or job where your personal efforts and merits are rewarded.

I agree whole heartedly!!

[Dearth]

There is another facet to the conversation of cost of living and that is jobs I've been on both ends of the spectrum living below poverty lvl on minimum wage and now I have a good paying job with retirement benefits and unless the mill I work at shuts down I will be a lifer.

We all want a better life for ourselves and our kids yet we are also our own worst enemies because we want the good things in life but need to big money for it. I actually had more money when I worked minimum wage which was a whooping $3.25 when I started to now where I make over $30 an hr. More wages means more bills, more bills means more toys, more toys means more wants and it never ends.

Then now kids of today want what we worked our way to earn I learned working minimum wage to respect money it doesn't mean I'm money smart but I respect it. Most kids I see won't even answer the phone for a job unless it is paying well above current minimum wage then most of us complain that foreigners are taking over our jobs but when you walk into fast food joints, corner stores and convenience stores your hard pressed to find kids working there and older foreign workers doing the jobs because they are willing to work for that minimum wage whereas we as a society have not taught our kids the value of money and grow up not respecting it therefore not respecting the work that they do.

I may be wrong but I also have been on both ends of the pay scale as well

[Coralgurl]

I have a neighbour who seems to care more about appearances and how much money everyone in the culdesac appears to have and judges based on what he sees, not what he knows. He's a douchbag a$$hole who doesn't "appear" to have any friends. I honestly don't give a crap about what you drive, how you furnish your home and what kind of clothes you wear. I do care about making sure my kids are well taken care of, have what they need for school and happy. We bought an RV a couple of years ago because we love to camp and we want our kids to continue to want to come out with us. And they do from 22 yrs old to 12, they love it and hanging out with us. It wasn't about what our friends had, it was about what works for us as a family. Its only been in the last couple of years that I have actually started to spend money on myself outside of necessities. My income has more than doubled over the past few years, from when I was a single parent to today. I worked my butt off to ensure I could look after my girls and it was not easy, and no, I did not receive any support. I chose a career in which my income is only capped by how far I want to grow within the industry.

The cost of living has gone up, for sure. But in the end we make our own choices on how to spend our money, what type of house to buy and car to drive. Life was so much simpler with no mortgage, no bills (being a renter vs homeowner), no cell phones, car payments, fish tanks etc.

If coworkers decide to blow bonuses on cars and trips etc., really, why do you care? If you are happy, that really is all that matters.

[daplatapus]

I was listening to CBC today and was curious to see if anyone had heard of this new report out of the Fraser Institute that says you can bring up a child for $3000-$4500/yr.
:boink:

I'm not even a parent and I don't see how that's possible.

[The Grizz]

Have you ever worked with someone that you so desperately wanted to punch in the back of the head?

Nope, I punch them in the front of the head :boxing:

[spit.fire]

I was listening to CBC today and was curious to see if anyone had heard of this new report out of the Fraser Institute that says you can bring up a child for $3000-$4500/yr.
:boink:

I'm not even a parent and I don't see how that's possible.

Maybe for the first year if you're breast feeding, and using cloth diapers

[kien]

I was listening to CBC today and was curious to see if anyone had heard of this new report out of the Fraser Institute that says you can bring up a child for $3000-$4500/yr.
:boink:

I'm not even a parent and I don't see how that's possible.

This depends on so many factors. For starters, what exactly do they mean by bring up? If they just mean feeding the kid then sure, that's possible. Kids don't actually eat much. You could clothes them in rags for all they cared. :lol:
Daycare is a bit of a variable. Not everyone has their kids in daycare. Some have a stay at home parent, some have grand parents, etc..

[spit.fire]

Good news, I can walk without crutches now

[Seth81]

I spend more then that on my dog per year!

I was listening to CBC today and was curious to see if anyone had heard of this new report out of the Fraser Institute that says you can bring up a child for $3000-$4500/yr.
:boink:

I'm not even a parent and I don't see how that's possible.

[spit.fire]

so while sitting at work on "light duties" ive been typing out all of our procedures for everything, just handed a bunch in (on a portable hard drive) and my boss asked me why there were so many spelling errors...
so i gave him 2 reasons...

1. i didn't realize spell check wasnt installed on word on my computer
2. i'm a fabricator, i cant even spell fabricator without spell-check

luckily firefox has built in spell check

[The Grizz]

i cant even spell fabricator without spell-checker


FABRICATOR is the first word they teach you how to spell in your first yr of trade school :lol:

[Dearth]

FABRICATOR is the first word they teach you how to spell in your first yr of trade school :lol:

At least he isn't an engineer, they know how to design it, build it, put it together but could not tell you how it works or what it does in simple laymen terms then wonder why we can't follow the simple 200 page instruction book

[The Grizz]

At least he isn't an engineer, they know how to design it, build it, put it together but could not tell you how it works or what it does in simple laymen terms then wonder why we can't follow the simple 200 page instruction book

I deal with engineers all the time..........sure they can design it but that doesn't mean it can be built the way they think. Personally I think some of them need to work in the field for a couple yrs first before or during there schooling.

[Dearth]

I deal with engineers all the time..........sure they can design it but that doesn't mean it can be built the way they think. Personally I think some of them need to work in the field for a couple yrs first before or during there schooling.

Yup I feel the same way I've ever only met one engineer in my 18 yrs in the pulp industry that came to the field operators and asked them how xx design would work and how accessible it old be for us he was a very popular engineer

[spit.fire]

I deal with engineers all the time..........sure they can design it but that doesn't mean it can be built the way they think. Personally I think some of them need to work in the field for a couple yrs first before or during there schooling.

+1

Next to impossible to get them make changes too

[canadianbudz604]

+1

Next to impossible to get them make changes too

Yep, 13 years in the framing industry and the engineers stuff works on their paper, but it won't work in the field and getting them to change it is like pulling teeth.

[The Grizz]

+1

Next to impossible to get them make changes too

I am lucky that I deal with the same engineers all the time and when changes need to be made I make them and they have to adopt it to there prints. They have learned that after 20+ yrs doing what I do that sometime I am the smart one not them lol.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

[spit.fire]

I am lucky that I deal with the same engineers all the time and when changes need to be made I make them and they have to adopt it to there prints. They have learned that after 20+ yrs doing what I do that sometime I am the smart one not them lol.


Stay clear..... this Bear bites off limbs!!

The ones I work with will make their own changes and ignore my suggestions... Then 2 months down the road when they realize their changes didn't work they change it to how I advised but they take the credit....

[Magickiwi]

Speaking as an engineer I think all fabricators should have to go to engineering school. That way we'd all be able to communicate! It can be difficult sometimes to communicate the tolerances that need to be observed, processes that need to happen as designed etc.

[Zoaelite]

Speaking as a retailer both Fabricators and Engineers should try out my profession :razz:.

How easy it is to take your stress out on the poor customer service rep.

[canadianbudz604]

I wouldn't last an hour as a customer service rep. Too long in construction I have no mouth filter and a short temper lol

[sphelps]

Speaking as an engineer I think all fabricators should have to go to engineering school. That way we'd all be able to communicate! It can be difficult sometimes to communicate the tolerances that need to be observed, processes that need to happen as designed etc.

+1 although I'd be happy with them just going to school in general then maybe they wouldn't be so eager to blame all their problems on someone else. I can't spell, I can't read fractions, I can't read drawings, what does mm stand for?.... Damn engineer! :lol:

[daplatapus]

what does mm stand for?....


I believe it always precede's "bacon"... Mmmmm, Bacon :D

[sphelps]

All jokes a side there are good engineers and plenty of terrible ones to, no different than fabricators or any other profession (trust me I could tell some stories). All the engineers I work with directly have plenty of field experience, some more than office. I myself started in manufacturing, first in a machine shop then in heavy equipment, now in oil in gas I often go to site to address issues hands on. This is pretty typical for many engineers, some universities even require field or shop experience.

[jorjef]

As someone that sells to structural fabricators on a daily basis I get to feel a little of their frustration when a column in the 14"x14" family is called for. Sure I can get it.....but you want it when??? Lol. What does mm mean? Now that's funny..... Well actually kind of scary.

[The Grizz]

Speaking as an engineer I think all fabricators should have to go to engineering school. That way we'd all be able to communicate! It can be difficult sometimes to communicate the tolerances that need to be observed, processes that need to happen as designed etc.

That is one thing I would never say I understand completely is the major math factor. I would have loved to go take engineering then I could have charged a helz of a lot more fore my time.

As someone that sells to structural fabricators on a daily basis I get to feel a little of their frustration when a column in the 14"x14" family is called for. Sure I can get it.....but you want it when??? Lol. What does mm mean? Now that's funny..... Well actually kind of scary.

I blame that all on the Structual Metals Handbook for Engineers, I have the last 2 additions & there are so many items that are not available to Canada or at all anywhere in North America.

[The Grizz]

+1 although I'd be happy with them just going to school in general then maybe they wouldn't be so eager to blame all their problems on someone else. I can't spell, I can't read fractions, I can't read drawings, what does mm stand for?.... Damn engineer! :lol:

Those are some of the BC & East Coast imports :lol: I have work in many shops & unions jobs & there are many many so called welder who think they are fabricators that can't even build a square box from a piece of square tube. :surprise:

[gregzz4]

Coming originally from an Automotive background, I used to think Engineers would wake in the middle of the night, or just stay up nights, and think about ways to make servicing things difficult
I often would think 'cmon, what where you thinking when you designed this ?

[spit.fire]

anyone good with wordpress? I NEED HELP IM GOING CRAZY

[Magickiwi]

anyone good with wordpress? I NEED HELP IM GOING CRAZY

That's par for the course... Tricky blog post?

[spit.fire]

That's par for the course... Tricky blog post?
one of the galleries is displaying in a liniar fashion where i need it to display in a grid... like its supposed to...

[Dearth]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/Dearth01/image_zps012fc928.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Dearth01/media/image_zps012fc928.jpg.html)

[spit.fire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/Dearth01/image_zps012fc928.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Dearth01/media/image_zps012fc928.jpg.html)

Haha that's awesome

[Snappy]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Trainer02/tank%20journal%203/milk_zpsf6d36b5a.jpg

[spit.fire]

So decided to go see a movie tonight (first time with no kids in awhile) and walking from the van to the theatre, my leg went "pop"... Dropped me to the ground, got up and now my leg feel 100x better. I can even walk up stairs normally now

Guess something was somewhere it wasn't supposed to be

[kien]

So decided to go see a movie tonight (first time with no kids in awhile) and walking from the van to the theatre, my leg went "pop"... Dropped me to the ground, got up and now my leg feel 100x better. I can even walk up stairs normally now

Guess something was somewhere it wasn't supposed to be

But what movie did you see??

Also, did you manage to kill anything on the ride back?

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

You might have had some torn cartilage jamming your knee joint and it shifted. I've had that in the past. Glad you're feeling better.

[spit.fire]

But what movie did you see??

Also, did you manage to kill anything on the ride back?

Elysium

Movie just finished, got another 22km to go

[jorjef]

Is it Ernie and Bert, or Bert an Ernie? What a conundrum.

[kien]

Is it Ernie and Bert, or Bert an Ernie? What a conundrum.

If you ask Bert then it's "Bert and Ernie." If you ask Ernie he'll tell you to ask Bert, so it's probably "Bert and Ernie."

[jorjef]

If you ask Bert then it's "Bert and Ernie." If you ask Ernie he'll tell you to ask Bert, so it's probably "Bert and Ernie."

Wise beyond your years sir. Now I can move forward with the day.

[kien]

Wise beyond your years sir. Now I can move forward with the day.

The question you really should be asking is, why does Ernie have Bert's banana in his ear?!?!

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/muzanji/9A83C05B-7068-43AA-B3E5-DE1DC9E7C5B5-9028-000005315718EEB3_zpsb095231b.jpg

[jorjef]

'Musa' found it aPEELing for some reason. Ernie is a loose cannon that's for sure.

[SanguinesDream]

On a completely unrelated Muppet topic, it would be really great if you could put your hands together and ask the big Sky Daddy for a peaceful night for me without seizures all night long like last night. TIA!

[kien]

'Musa' found it aPEELing for some reason. Ernie is a loose cannon that's for sure.

hehe, good one!

[Mandosh]

The hum of mp40s is kind of nice when your power has been out for three hours.

Sent from my GT-I9100M using Tapatalk 2

[Mandosh]

The hum of mp40s is kind of nice when your power has been out for three hours.

Sent from my GT-I9100M using Tapatalk 2

...make that twelve hours.

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[spit.fire]

...make that twelve hours.

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Ouch, any losses

[Mandosh]

Ouch, any losses

No issues at all. My power goes out all the time. Between the battery back-up and a 4000W generator, I can handle it pretty smoothly.

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[spit.fire]

No issues at all. My power goes out all the time. Between the battery back-up and a 4000W generator, I can handle it pretty smoothly.

Sent from my GT-I9100M using Tapatalk 2

I'm thinking I'm gonna bring my welder home just in case I have any long lasting power outages this winter

Last year the record for me was 28hrs

[Dearth]

Ok I've been using photobucket for years for all my uploads and today I feel like a twit i learned that after copying a photo to a website I did not realize you could click on the image and make it bigger x2


Old dog new trick

[spit.fire]

Ok I've been using photobucket for years for all my uploads and today I feel like a twit i learned that after copying a photo to a website I did not realize you could click on the image and make it bigger x2


Old dog new trick

You can also change the settings so it posts a full size picture

[The Grizz]

Well first time in several months I got to enjoy a nice relaxing swim in my pool..............so warm and soothing.

[jorjef]

Well first time in several months I got to enjoy a nice relaxing swim in my pool..............so warm and soothing.

I thought the 300 gal was for fish?

[The Grizz]

I thought the 300 gal was for fish?

It is but the 16,000 gal is for me :lol:

[kien]

good morning Canreef! :morning:

[thmh]

good morning Canreef! :morning:

Morning!

~Tony

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

good morning Canreef! :morning:

Morning. With Felicia in kindergarten now, daddy and mommy HAVE to become morning people, even though daddy is really a night owl. Ugggh. Coffee - Great idea. Off tot he kitchen now.

[Magickiwi]

good morning Canreef! :morning:

Good morning to you too!!

[Aquattro]

Off tot he kitchen now.

Better have 2 cups of coffee :)

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Better have 2 cups of coffee :)

Maybe 3 :wink:

Well Felicia is in class so daddy can go back to bed. Hehehehe. Have the coffee when I wake up again.

[Coralgurl]

Good morning back to you!

[kien]

Morning. With Felicia in kindergarten now, daddy and mommy HAVE to become morning people, even though daddy is really a night owl. Ugggh. Coffee - Great idea. Off tot he kitchen now.

I hear you Anthony! I was/am NOT a morning person either! But now that Jaeden is in grade 1 I have to mobilize him (and Kira) to get him to the bus stop at 7:30.. Ugh. Last year when he was in kindergarten it was only half days and we opted for the afternoon to ease into it :lol:

[spit.fire]

ugg I woke up at 930... Too early

[Aquattro]

5:45. Slept in :)

[spit.fire]

5:45. Slept in :)

I think that's about when I fell asleep

[Nano]

Yup passed my testing today with flying colors :) very pleased.

First time welding half inch http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h401/thehobdenmarina/CAM00635_zps8f570260.jpg (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/thehobdenmarina/media/CAM00635_zps8f570260.jpg.html)


And hey while I'm here and all..

Boom.

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h401/thehobdenmarina/CAM00610_zpsb81cd4c3.jpg (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/thehobdenmarina/media/CAM00610_zpsb81cd4c3.jpg.html)
Ya. That just happened for real. Lol

[gregzz4]

Yup passed my testing today with flying colors :) very pleased.

First time welding half inch [/URL]


And hey while I'm here and all..

Boom.

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Ya. That just happened for real. Lol
Congrats
I was wondering where you were

So when's that tank getting wet ?

[Nano]

Congrats
I was wondering where you were

So when's that tank getting wet ?

Oh I've been lurking in the shadows. But mostly just been busy renovating. We're working on the kitchen right now but we're just doing half at a time cause we're living here now.

Hope to post up some pictures soon.

Tank is wet now in the garage testing for leaks as its custom and there were some bubbles. Its holding water as of today after curing for a week. Then it comes in til I'm ready to stock. I'm working on some other things for it now but thats for another day.
Well thats the life story. Ha. Good to have a box of water again.

[Proteus]

Congrats ken on the weld and bout time you got wet again

[Nano]

Congrats ken on the weld and bout time you got wet again

Thanks Nick. Its just a freshwater tank for now but we'll see how things go. Just to busy for salt right now.

[spit.fire]

Yup passed my testing today with flying colors :) very pleased.

First time welding half inch http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h401/thehobdenmarina/CAM00635_zps8f570260.jpg (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/thehobdenmarina/media/CAM00635_zps8f570260.jpg.html)


And hey while I'm here and all..

Boom.

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Ya. That just happened for real. Lol


Nice weld, finally got the results back from my all position flux core cwb and flat ss flux core after waiting 3 months for results...
Passed everything

[H2o2]

That is a nice weld and I my hang a pic of that in the coffee room of the shipyard to give the boys a goal

[Dearth]

I work shift work and it is very difficult to make people understand that I can't just go out for the day or stay up all day when I have to work nights or work the weekends I find it very ironic and entertaining and annoying that most people have little understanding of a shift worker and that I don't get the same days off that they do or that I can't go somewhere cause I have to sleep or go to bed depending on what shift I work.

I work 4 12 hr shifts 2 day shifts 2 night shifts and 4 days off and my days off change every single week. It is actually quite difficult to explain that shift to most people but I have been working it for 18 yrs now and I love it. However again it is difficult to explain to people that I can't do this go there or do that and add in to the fact that I never have the same days off week after week and it really confuses people.

Sorry I was woken up one too many times today and was a little grumpy and somewhat surly with my words but only got 5 hrs left in my shift bed will be good today.

[Nano]

That is a nice weld and I my hang a pic of that in the coffee room of the shipyard to give the boys a goal

Haha thank you. Tell your boys that I don't even have my 1st year ticket yet either. Lol. Just beginners luck ;)

[Coralgurl]

Happy Friday the 13th! Gonna be a looooooooong day!

[michika]

If you are a business and you ask clients to leave a VM to be contacted back.

WHY DON'T YOU CONTACT THE CLIENT BACK?!!!!

Logically, how can I spend money with your business on your good and services if you never want to acknowledge your customers?

[Magickiwi]

If you are a business and you ask clients to leave a VM to be contacted back.

WHY DON'T YOU CONTACT THE CLIENT BACK?!!!!

Logically, how can I spend money with your business on your good and services if you never want to acknowledge your customers?

That's retail in Canada for you.

[Dearth]

Favourite new saying

"If you don't drive a truck, no matter how sweet the ride, how fast it is or how cool looking it is it ain't worth talking about if it ain't a truck"

Love it

[Seth81]

My Turck brings all the boys to the yard, and I'm like my truck is better than yours! And they're like mine's better than yours... lol obviously I'm busy at work!

Favourite new saying

"If you don't drive a truck, no matter how sweet the ride, how fast it is or how cool looking it is it ain't worth talking about if it ain't a truck"

Love it

[Aquattro]

and how annoying is that???

[lockrookie]

Threw out half a bucket of coral skeletons last night.... Feeling heavy hearted

[kien]

Threw out half a bucket of coral skeletons last night.... Feeling heavy hearted

Ouch.. Sorry to hear.. Been there, done that, got the (wet) t-shirt.

[Dearth]

Threw out half a bucket of coral skeletons last night.... Feeling heavy hearted

Crappy...... I guess on the upside you have room for more coral now....

[spit.fire]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/tyty_220/B0CC0391-5696-42A8-A5C5-22715E13BA70-276-00000016E4151A4B_zps63c338fd.jpg

[Coralgurl]

So angry right now....some folks have no clue what being human means.... sometimes you just want to take someone and smack them up the side of the head and say WTF...if only that was enough.....makes me sick....

[Aquattro]

sometimes you just want to take someone and smack them up the side of the head and say WTF.

sometimes?? :)

[Coralgurl]

sometimes?? :)

Repeatedly into a brick wall, and it still wouldn't do any good. I am not a violent person, but I'd be willing to make an exemption!

[ALBERTA REEF]

Theirs a saying "Money will not being you happiness". The person who thought of this saying did not live pay check to pay check. Money would be a good start.

[Reef Pilot]

Theirs a saying "Money will not being you happiness". The person who thought of this saying did not live pay check to pay check. Money would be a good start.
It's actually all about good decision making and choices. Will bring you both happiness and money.

[spit.fire]

Some people in fast food are retarded

Me:
"Can I get a mcflurry instead of a drink"
Her:
"Sorry we can't do that"
Me:
"Ok I don't want a meal, I'd like a wrap, medium fries and a mcflurry" "holy sh*t I just made a meal with a mcflurry"



I bet there's spit in my wrap now




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[kien]

Wonder if anyone knows where I might find some Pukani Reef Rock. Preferable for cheap. With free shipping anywhere in Canada.

[jorjef]

Bidders remorse. The new aquatic hang over.

[spit.fire]

Only 4 days till my wife's due date :D

[rickcasa]

Get used to doing things one handed...I hold the nori clip open with my teeth.

[jorjef]

You're about to read a book called Red Reeds. You can call your Red Reed book read when you're done.

It's 5:40 am what else would a person be thinking about? The English language what's up with that!

[Dearth]

You're about to read a book called Red Reeds. You can call your Red Reed book read when you're done.

It's 5:40 am what else would a person be thinking about? The English language what's up with that!

I am thinking about my relief been a long 12 hrs tonight bed will be good that is what I am thinking about at 4:45 am

[jorjef]

Guess you won't be reading about red reeds

[Dearth]

Guess you won't be reading about red reeds

Nope I will be dreaming of it though I will even give it it's own story line :)

[jorjef]

Nope I will be dreaming of it though I will even give it it's own story line :)

All right, write it down when you wake up.

[jorjef]

Would wood be a better read after being read?

[HaZRaTTy]

Rant of the Day... Why can't all houses come with nice perfect rooms behind your fish tank for a fish room for your "CONVENIENCE"

I am so sick of screwing around in my Sump under my tank, Thankfully I run a pretty simple low needs setup and I have have reactors out the Ying Yang.

The next house that is on the top of my needs, though I would have developed the basement with one if I wasn't planning on selling this house in 5 years.

Anyways this is all brought on with the dam snowflake eel finding his way down into my sump full of rock! Now taking all the rock out my sump is so murky from stirring up the rock and no longer being able to see where the bastard is.


I enjoy tinkering with my tank, rock, frags, sump, reactors.. but really need the space to have my own fish cave.. ;)

[Magickiwi]

Me feeding my carpet nem:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060903053113/starwars/images/9/99/Mouth.jpg

[reefwars]

my phone froze yesterday and after turning it back on the date said apr16 1980 , i turned it on and off several times and the date didnt change it stayed in 1980, so figured who cares and went to bed woke up this morning and i got a blank text from an unknown number with the date apr 17 1980 around 3am and the date on my phone now says oct 2 2013.......haunted much???

[lastlight]

Me feeding my carpet nem:

+rep

[Proteus]

my phone froze yesterday and after turning it back on the date said apr16 1980 , i turned it on and off several times and the date didnt change it stayed in 1980, so figured who cares and went to bed woke up this morning and i got a blank text from an unknown number with the date apr 17 1980 around 3am and the date on my phone now says oct 2 2013.......haunted much???

Ghost of Christmas past....

[Dearth]

my phone froze yesterday and after turning it back on the date said apr16 1980 , i turned it on and off several times and the date didnt change it stayed in 1980, so figured who cares and went to bed woke up this morning and i got a blank text from an unknown number with the date apr 17 1980 around 3am and the date on my phone now says oct 2 2013.......haunted much???

While it is interesting and funny that has happened to you There is the possibility that your phone got hacked into its not the first time I have heard of phones being reset to improbable times. I would check with your service provider to see if other people have reported that as well as hacking phones is the latest craze and it isn't all that hard to do either.

[reefwars]

While it is interesting and funny that has happened to you There is the possibility that your phone got hacked into its not the first time I have heard of phones being reset to improbable times. I would check with your service provider to see if other people have reported that as well as hacking phones is the latest craze and it isn't all that hard to do either.

no prob was my phones screen is craked bad and my phone got wet , and went screwy all day and evening. i guess it finally dried up overnight lol :)

[jorjef]

Wife and 12 year old son at Subway today


Son: I will have a blah blah blah sandwich..

Lady at till: So how are you enjoying your day with your grandma?


There is not enough wine in the house or any words I can say that are going to smooth this over anytime soon. I even tried " well technically it could be possible" In hindsight maybe that shouldn't have been my first attempt at consoling. .....

[Coralgurl]

Wife and 12 year old son at Subway today


Son: I will have a blah blah blah sandwich..

Lady at till: So how are you enjoying your day with your grandma?


There is not enough wine in the house or any words I can say that are going to smooth this over anytime soon. I even tried " well technically it could be possible" In hindsight maybe that shouldn't have been my first attempt at consoling. .....

Ohhhh you should take her shopping and buy her something nice!!! Most women like expensive purses and shoes....:lol:

[jorjef]

Ohhhh you should take her shopping and buy her something nice!!! Most women like expensive purses and shoes....:lol:

She has more purses than one person should have, and her feet are so narrow she has a total of 2 stores she can buy from... Maybe more of those shiny bead things for her bracelet.....

[spit.fire]

She has more purses than one person should have, and her feet are so narrow she has a total of 2 stores she can buy from... Maybe more of those shiny bead things for her bracelet.....

I hate those shiny bead things, my wife is obsessed with them so 300$ later the had the one she wanted with a total of 4 bead thingies... And she always wants more... And she always wants the ridiculously expensive ones... Then came the great idea to get her mom started with them, that wasn't cheap either.

[spit.fire]

Funny how a trip to the store for hotdogs and buns turns into a 350$ bill

[jorjef]

I hate those shiny bead things, my wife is obsessed with them so 300$ later the had the one she wanted with a total of 4 bead thingies... And she always wants more... And she always wants the ridiculously expensive ones... Then came the great idea to get her mom started with them, that wasn't cheap either.

On the bright side it makes shopping for birthday, Christmas, Valentines Day etc. presents a lot easier. :lol:

[Magickiwi]

Is there anything in the world that smells worse than a rotten turbo snail??

[MitchM]

On the bright side it makes shopping for birthday, Christmas, Valentines Day etc. presents a lot easier. :lol:

I told my wife she could buy the $ equivalent of whatever I spent on aquariums on jewelery.
Now she keeps telling me to buy more coral and equipment.
I hate it.
I'm torn.

:lol:

[jorjef]

I told my wife she could buy the $ equivalent of whatever I spent on aquariums on jewelery.
Now she keeps telling me to buy more coral and equipment.
I hate it.
I'm torn.

:lol:

That's a slippery slope.

[Kryptic4L]

are dbags a dying breed?

Am i the only one who would laugh if my wife was called a gramma....... hysterically and probably for months on end ?

[jorjef]

Let me know how that works out for you when it happens. :biggrin:

[gregzz4]

I can't keep this to myself any longer

Some didn't believe me when I told them my boss is a real road apple
- The north end of a south-bound horse
- The pointy part of a needle

An employee who started Nov/12 decided to leave around May/13 but was convinced to stay 'till Aug 20th
I decided in June I wanted out
A guy started late Aug lasted 2 weeks
An employee who started Apr/12 gave notice early Sept for Sept 24th
I gave notice today, then found out our newest hire, who started Sept 17th, gave his notice yesterday !
And he told the boss to be nice, or he'll leave immediately

My boss is firing the cannons through the hull, and our General Manager doesn't even know the hold is flooded and the crew took all the rowboats

[spit.fire]

ADD....

When you go to drill a 3 holes in a tank, get distracted by how ugly the paint is on your drill and decide to paint it and forget to drill the other 2 holes....

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/tyty_220/6242BC6E-F662-4E45-B6B6-FE4D29B701E6-573-0000003011C932CF_zpsd03a6353.jpg


Or when you go to build an overflow box and decide to build a dust collector system for your router table half way through it using recycled aquarium plumbing

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/tyty_220/6B1EBE59-D363-4332-81F8-E1B4342D5553-573-0000003144069ED4_zps865d2351.jpg

[Murminator]

I'm still alive....just sayin :mrgreen:

[reefwars]

I'm still alive....just sayin :mrgreen:

Hey buddy:) been wondering if you were still kicking how's things going?

Ps: Denny here :)

[Magickiwi]

I have an acquaintance that heard my stories of how my aquariums relax me and give me a slice of the coral reefs to enjoy at home. Apparently my stories were so compelling that he decided he wanted to purchase a tank and start up a reef of his own. Thousands of dollars into the hobby his interest has waned and now his tank hasn’t had a water change in a couple months, algae is starting to take over, his livestock has had “mysterious deaths”, rock looks like poop, etc.

My rant is this: If you are interested in a hobby where you are essentially taking over for The Almighty in terms of caring for a life by feeding, keeping healthy etc. then have the decency to accept that you are now their entire lifeline to this world. They can no longer exist without your attention and care; and as such you have a real OBLIGATION to see these creatures either maintained or moved to new homes where they will be cared for.

My acquaintance is now convinced that he is losing interest because his tank is not large enough to keep all the species he wanted; which is why he’s losing interest in his current tank. (Red Sea Max 130d, bought brand spanking new along with every piece of rock, sand, livestock, etc.) Do you really think that after you lose interest in one responsibility that taking on an even larger responsibility will change things?

I want to take away this person’s credit cards until they’ve learned responsibility for what they’ve already taken on.

[Proteus]

The sad kart of this is people don't have respect for the animals the keep. Some people think it's just a fish when in reality every fish purchased and lost due to there negligence just creates more demand as they continuously aquire more. These are the people who hurt our hobby and are the reasons why fish caught in the wild suffer from depleting stocks

Makes me sick that these type of people are keeping any kind of animal

[Coralgurl]

So sad today. I wish I was ubber rich where money was no object, to make things happen. The money isn't the issue, its time and there's never enough and its so hard to balance out life's demands. And time is running out and it makes me sad.

That is all.

[gregzz4]

Sorry to hear you're down in the dumps Sheena
Maybe this'll cheer you up ?

I just watched our Solar dump a fresh one that the Purple Firefish promptly gobbled up, with a cloud coming out it's gills :surprise:
Can't wait for any mini-cycle in the QT to run it's course so I can feed these guys a bit more as they are obviously a tad hungry !

[lastlight]

Sorry man my well fed fatties still do that lol.

[gregzz4]

Sorry man my well fed fatties still do that lol.
In a year and a half of SW, and a lifetime of FW, I've seen lots of fish 'test' poops, but never eat it. Well, except for nori poops

[jorjef]

It was October 27th....... 7:13 pm.......There was 12,289 people, on line, on Canreef. How is this possible??

[lastlight]

It was October 27th....... 7:13 pm.......There was 12,289 people, on line, on Canreef. How is this possible??

BOTS

[jorjef]

BOTS


I feel violated!!

[kien]

I feel violated!!

You were violated by fembots?

[jorjef]

As Austin Powers would say.... 'Ya baby ya'

[SanguinesDream]

The sad kart of this is people don't have respect for the animals the keep. Some people think it's just a fish when in reality every fish purchased and lost due to there negligence just creates more demand as they continuously aquire more. These are the people who hurt our hobby and are the reasons why fish caught in the wild suffer from depleting stocks

Makes me sick that these type of people are keeping any kind of animal

And this is why we have a fish rescue. Ik,r? People snicker all the time but fish are sentient beings who didn't asked to be kept by idiots and disposed off via the porcelain throne.

[SanguinesDream]

Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday to me.

Growing a year older is a privilege denied to many. After battling the beast the second time and fighting it back into NED, every moment is gravy. I remember my friends Cheryl, David and Karen who lost their battles and I pray for a cure before more lives are lost unneedlessly.

That and today is the 50th anniversary of JFKs' assassination, so meh.

[Wheelman76]

Happy Birthday!!

[thmh]

Happy birthday !!!


-Tony

[Doug]

Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday to me.

Growing a year older is a privilege denied to many. After battling the beast the second time and fighting it back into NED, every moment is gravy. I remember my friends Cheryl, David and Karen who lost their battles and I pray for a cure before more lives are lost unneedlessly.

That and today is the 50th anniversary of JFKs' assassination, so meh.


Happy Birthday and amen to the rest.

[Delphinus]

Happy birthday!

[The Grizz]

Picked up a Milwaukee TDS meter a while ago and decided to check to see what my well water TDS was after running through a VERY expensive whole house RO unit................to my surprise it was a very clear & decisive ZERO ppm. Not thinking about buying a Vertex RO unit any more.

[Aquattro]

Strange hobby. We add de-icer to our tanks and use sea salt to melt snow on the front stairs..lol

[The Grizz]

Need one more thing for my build and naturally its on back order.......typical.

[Delphinus]

I forgot to buy a mini-DIN-8 cable connector when I was at the electronics store yesterday. Naturally they are now closed until Monday. DARN IT, I WANT TO DO THIS APEX PROJECT THISSSS WEEEEEEEKEND ...

Tried going into The Source by CC ... naturally they do not have mini-DIN connectors. The clerk was actually pretty apologetic "Yeah, we're pretty much just a toy store now.."

I have no idea where to look for a mini-DIN-8 cable or connector at a place that might be open on Saturday. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thought of Active Components but they only list the female plug, not the male plug. http://www.active123.com/262801-8Pin-MiniDin-Plug-Prodview.html

Too much trouble to list both kinds, or too much trouble to sell both kinds ??????


*sigh*

[JDigital]

Have you tried Memory Express?

[Delphinus]

Yeah, not listed on their site. Might be worth visiting the store to be sure though.

Gonna try Active tomorrow ... seems odd to have only 1 gender listed, they must have both.

[jorjef]

Cold nuff fer ya?

[Doug]

You guys all freezing your butts off in the east. Wow cold temps. Reminds me of my years in Thompson. Even cold here at -19. No snow but cold.

[michika]

It's -40 in Banff this morning. So many people unable to head home as their vehicles won't start.