in-wall tank people, need help

[christyf5]

ok yet another question!

So I'm currently waffling over the whole recessed/flush mount in the wall. So mounting it flush with the viewing wall would require some bulking up of the wall to hold some of the weight.

I wanted to build the stand to the same dimensions of the tank, yet offset the tank forward to make up for the width of the wall (theres a lip of concrete on the floor that is the width of the wall). So behind the tank the stand would stick out a few inches so I could set stuff on it or possibly stand on it if needed (yay/nay?).

Now because the tank won't be supported completely by the posts at the back (since it will be set forward) do I need to shore up the sides of the stand with extra upright posts?

Is it just miles easier to do a recessed wall tank? I mean after all its only a few inches

[Lance]

Originally Posted by christyf5

ok yet another question!

So I'm currently waffling over the whole recessed/flush mount in the wall. So mounting it flush with the viewing wall would require some bulking up of the wall to hold some of the weight.

I wanted to build the stand to the same dimensions of the tank, yet offset the tank forward to make up for the width of the wall (theres a lip of concrete on the floor that is the width of the wall). So behind the tank the stand would stick out a few inches so I could set stuff on it or possibly stand on it if needed (yay/nay?).

Now because the tank won't be supported completely by the posts at the back (since it will be set forward) do I need to shore up the sides of the stand with extra upright posts?

Is it just miles easier to do a recessed wall tank? I mean after all its only a few inches

The exposed part of the stand at the back is a great idea. (It will be at least 6" wide, as the wall is 2x6. The stand, if built properly will be plenty strong, you won't need extra posts.

[untamed]

I really like the idea of having the stand stick out a bit into the back room so that you can stand on the edge. I have this on my tank and wish that I had actually made the edge larger (mine is only 6"...8" might be better/easier to stand on). The fact that the stand sticks out and creates a catwalk on the backside makes some of the plumbing more difficult, but it is worth it. I use mine every day. In fact, the bar out front really came to be because I wanted a catwalk on the frontside as well.

Is there no way you can remove the front wall and just build the stand so that it is flush with the wall? Basically, the stand itself would become the wall under the tank. This would create a bit more space under the stand as well.

You mention some sort of concrete lip on the floor...just build the stand right over top of the lip. The vertical beams of the stand at the front would push weight down onto the top of this concrete lip, while the back of the stand would push weight down onto the floor directly.

If the stand is larger than the tank to produce that catwalk on the backside, you don't need any extra beefing up of the sides. You just need to ensure that the stand floor (or roof) is firm. In my case, the top of the stand is 2x6's on edge set about 1 foot apart. Those distribute the load to all sides of the stand. These can easily carry the weight shifted 8" or so from the edges...or just the back edge in this case.

You can see the 2x6 floor on top of the stand in the pics below. It is basically two parts: 2x4 walls...and a 2x6 (on edge) floor that sits (attached by large screws) on top of the 2x4 walls. A structure like this would support the weight even if the stand were considerably larger than the tank itself....just like how your sofa doesn't fall through your upstairs floor just because it is the middle of the room.

[workn2hard2day]

Originally Posted by christyf5

So I'm currently waffling over the whole recessed/flush mount in the wall.

If you are still waffling, start cleaning your front glass/tank backwards for a few weeks.

[Mrfish55]

If you look thru my build thread http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...&highlight=750 you can see how I did mine, basically a platform, one end sits in the opening on a short wall and the other supported by legs (I have another short wall in the middle of mine but you will not need that) This way once trimmed out the tanks is very close to flush with the wall.

[Dez]

I love having the tank flush with the wall. I had the builder beef up the wall that the tank is resting on. It's even finished with drywall, so my tank is resting on foam/plywood/drywall/studs only on the wall portion of it. No matter what you do, make sure you have access in the front. I've talked to so many people that have no access in the front and it proves to be a pain.

[sphelps]

Can't you you just cantilever part of the stand into the wall so the tank is flush and yet the stand is not part of the wall?? If you build your stand properly there is no reason why the edge of the tank has to line up with the support.

[lastlight]

Yeah when the top from for the tank is built...whether it's 2x4 or 2x6 you're having some hang off the back to stand on. Have it hang over the front a bit too. The tank can definitely hang over a bit. See it all the time with metal stands but it should work here too. You can always toss a few 2x4 studs under the overhang bit.

[apexi]

IMHO, mounting the tank flush with the wall with some trimming makes for a nice finished look. That's the way I did it, flush with the drywall, and casing on one side to create a "picture frame" look from one side, and custom cabinetry on the other side.

[Delphinus]

+1 on the flush trim