LFS claimed wild caught fishes are better

[chandigz]

I think the idea of cb being less disease resistent. Is because they have never been exposed to disease or parasites. Their immune system hasn't ever had to fight off anything. They have no antibodies or resistance. Like when we get vacinated we are being exposed to a virus for our immune system to build antibodies.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

I think tank bred are way too hardy.

Just to do "kind of" an experiment, I added a captive bred clownfish on the very day when I received my cured live rock (no fish police I hope :P). And guess what? It is still kicking and way too playful (tank's running more than a month now). Then I got a wild one few weeks after adding the first one, and suddenly it stopped eating, mouths were stuck open and I knew it would get ich very soon and I was true and had to put it out of its misery.

This caused me to be curious since my situation is either caused by the fish being wild or the fish being sick initially!

i think damsels in particular do better in the cycle process than most other fish and are very hardy:P

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by chandigz

I think the idea of cb being less disease resistent. Is because they have never been exposed to disease or parasites. Their immune system hasn't ever had to fight off anything. They have no antibodies or resistance. Like when we get vacinated we are being exposed to a virus for our immune system to build antibodies.

+1

plus wild caught fish are street smart:P

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by reefwars

i think damsels in particular do better in the cycle process than most other fish and are very hardy:P

Haha. I know but I just didn't want to go through the trouble of removing the damsel afterwards.

But I was pretty surprised because the clown went through my cycle without any problem. From the very first day, it was eating like pig and from the 2nd take it started taking food from my hand. It was awesome

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by reefwars

+1

plus wild caught fish are street smart:P

So you think wild caught are better to get? (Will save me lots of money )

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Haha. I know but I just didn't want to go through the trouble of removing the damsel afterwards.

But I was pretty surprised because the clown went through my cycle without any problem. From the very first day, it was eating like pig and from the 2nd take it started taking food from my hand. It was awesome

clownfish are part of the damsel family:P

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

So you think wild caught are better to get? (Will save me lots of money )

no i dont think they are better, but finding them reguarily and then proving they are tank bred is another story. most of the fish stores around here have wild caught fish, the odd tank bred fish that comes through are mostly clowns and bangers.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by reefwars

clownfish are part of the damsel family:P

Oh yes I forgot

[Reef_Geek]

I think Gold's meant well in their opinion, but may have been narrow in perspective.

Keep in mind, by the time that a wild caught fish has reached the store, the greater proportion of fish that died along the way are not offered for sale. Numerous were caught and held prior to consolidating to a local exporting shipper, then numerous die in that transit, then some die post arrival to a wholesaler in Canada or US, then some make it to our LFS. In contrast, captive bred have higher survival rates come straight from the farm to the north american wholesaler/LFS. By the time a wild caught is offered side by side with a captive bred, you're looking at one heck of a fighter in the wild fish. Physiologically they are comparable but costs of an aquaculture operation is going to require higher prices.

The questions is not whether you want captive bred for hardiness... the difference is likely not statistically significant if you ran 100 trials against common aquarium diseases. The question will be simply your choice. It's a purchase preference in ethics, not in utility. No right or wrong either way, fisheries exist to provide for society, we're just not eating these fish. They're not on the endangered list.

[lockrookie]

Originally Posted by Reef_Geek

I think Gold's meant well in their opinion, but may have been narrow in perspective.

Keep in mind, by the time that a wild caught fish has reached the store, the greater proportion of fish that died along the way are not offered for sale. Numerous were caught and held prior to consolidating to a local exporting shipper, then numerous die in that transit, then some die post arrival to a wholesaler in Canada or US, then some make it to our LFS. In contrast, captive bred have higher survival rates come straight from the farm to the north american wholesaler/LFS. By the time a wild caught is offered side by side with a captive bred, you're looking at one heck of a fighter in the wild fish. Physiologically they are comparable but costs of an aquaculture operation is going to require higher prices.

The questions is not whether you want captive bred for hardiness... the difference is likely not statistically significant if you ran 100 trials against common aquarium diseases. The question will be simply your choice. It's a purchase preference in ethics, not in utility. No right or wrong either way, fisheries exist to provide for society, we're just not eating these fish. They're not on the endangered list.

+1 i was goingto comment the same. who knows how many fish are lost in transit i try to purchase aquacultured if i can find its origin but yet if i wish a certian fish/critter not bred in captivity am i going to pass it up possibly not. but for the most part i prefer captive bred