An observation about sand and fine sand

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by Pike

I agree with you on that , bare bottom not so much

I think the spirit of the discussion has become lost under the polarization of BB vs sand.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

I think the spirit of the discussion has become lost

Which spirit started this post?

[Pike]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Which spirit started this post?

^ Buahahahahah !!! we have a winner.

And albert I think the discussion is going just fine

[Pike]

When I started to have cyano algae problems I checked my RODI unit and realized all filters and membrane needed replacement. I then started to use Prodibio as well and it solved the problem

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by Pike

When I started to have cyano algae problems I checked my RODI unit and realized all filters and membrane needed replacement. I then started to use Prodibio as well and it solved the problem

Okay, now let's pretend your RODI stuff is in good shape and you don't want to spend/afford the $$$ on dosing stuff.

Or how about you're doing everything right but your tank is 3 years old+ and you still have these issues.

Or what if you have a really large bioload because that's what you signed up for when you started this hobby.

Or what if your wife really, really likes to feed the fish and it's conditional to the tank taking up 6' x 2' + worth of the living space in your house.

Or what if this and that and whatever with rice?

Anyway, my point is that I've helped a ton of people overcome these sorts of issues and it all begins with removing old/dirty sand and running for at least a few months BB. You can add after you've overcome your problems if it just sets your soul into eternal torment. Or you can just cover the bottom with corals. Or you can just live with it because a clean tank > a dirty tank.

[Pike]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Okay, now let's pretend your RODI stuff is in good shape and you don't want to spend/afford the $$$ on dosing stuff.

Or how about you're doing everything right but your tank is 3 years old+ and you still have these issues.

Or what if you have a really large bioload because that's what you signed up for when you started this hobby.

Or what if your wife really, really likes to feed the fish and it's conditional to the tank taking up 6' x 2' + worth of the living space in your house.

Or what if this and that and whatever with rice?

Anyway, my point is that I've helped a ton of people overcome these sorts of issues and it all begins with removing old/dirty sand and running for at least a few months BB. You can add after you've overcome your problems if it just sets your soul into eternal torment. Or you can just cover the bottom with corals. Or you can just live with it because a clean tank > a dirty tank.

I understand what you mean. But the prodibio is not that expensive. Replacing the sand would be much more expensive and more work.And you signed up for an expensive hobby as much as you signed up for a large bioload.. And as for your wife well ..you need to give her something else to play with my man

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by Pike

I understand what you mean. But the prodibio is not that expensive. Replacing the sand would be much more expensive and more work.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here on both counts. Prodibio IS expensive because it's recurring, open-ended cost that might not necessarily fix the problem. Not to say that removing an old sandbed fixes a problem, but it IS free, or damn near free, to do.

Work-wise, like anything, it's easy if you know what you're doing. I helped another board member pull out 1/3rd of the sandbed from his 60 gallon cube the other day. Took max 7 minutes. No mess in the tank, no cloudy water, like nothing happened. 1" diameter hose, some buckets and a helping hand is all you need.

Originally Posted by Pike

And you signed up for an expensive hobby as much as you signed up for a large bioload..

I don't follow the line of reasoning here given that signing up for an expensive hobby and large bioload do not need to be mutually bound to signing up for doing more work than you have to.

Originally Posted by Pike

And as for your wife well ..you need to give her something else to play with my man

"Honey! I just got home for the Love Shoppe with something for you. It's a deluxe model, should keep you happy for years. Now run along while I go spend $$$ on my fish tank." Not sure if that's how the world works. Can we get a chime from either some contemptuous wives or men who have to deal with contemptuous wives? lol... ♥

[kien]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Which spirit started this post?

I'm guessing the variety that should be going into the tank.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by kien

I'm guessing the variety that should be going into the tank.

Dosing gone horribly wrong? Or right?? hehe

[Carrera75]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

I think the spirit of the discussion has become lost under the polarization of BB vs sand.

Were you really expecting everyone to agree with you? Your way is not the only way to do things buddy. What works for you might not work for me and vice versa.