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[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by HaZRaTTy

I have a durso right now and its a PITA.

What sort of problems are you having with your durso? I've been using them for 5 years on a few different tanks and have never experienced a single issue with them. Plumb it in, drill an air hole on top and you're done.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

What sort of problems are you having with your durso? I've been using them for 5 years on a few different tanks and have never experienced a single issue with them. Plumb it in, drill an air hole on top and you're done.

Thats what I thought. Never had a problem either and been using them since Rich first showed us on RC. I figure with two I wont have an issue with plugging up.

Of course if the flow exceeds one of the stacks and one plugs then still overflow right. Soooooooooo, if I have to keep flow at a capacity max of one duraso, then may as well do herbie...........Im going to pour a vodka

[intarsiabox]

Vodka solves all tank problems!

[Doug]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

Vodka solves all tank problems!

Yup.


and I,m still as confused as ever.

[Doug]

OK, I,m not drilling so its two stacks. Of course they can be whatever size, but my drains underneath are 3/4in. no matter what, although I will run 1.25in. drain pipes to the sump.

So its two Duraso or the one berbie.

Did I not make a good point before? If running both as Duraso, the return flow needs to be handled by one, right? If not and one plugs then we have problems. So thus, may as well run herbie? And limited the return to whatever a 3/4in drain can handle?

I will have a bazzillion gph in the tank from Vortechs so thats not a problem.

[HaZRaTTy]

I just dislike the Durso having 2 tanks with a Herbie then me foolishly switching to a Durso I don't know why I ever changed.

In theory if you have a bigger emergency drain then your main drain you should never have a problem.. also if you leave it long enough that both clog from some magic reason then I suppose you just maintain everything a little better.

I see no potential problems from a herbie, but I see a lot and have read a lot from the Bean animal just my opinion.

As for why I don't like my durso there's a few reasons. No matter what I do via standpipe, hole drilled and overflow water box height I still can hear it.

This overflow is setup with one 1 durso standpipe which makes me weary (Like I said before I don't even want to know what's clogging a 1.5 diameter of pvc but I guess it happens)

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by HaZRaTTy

This overflow is setup with one 1 durso standpipe which makes me weary (Like I said before I don't even want to know what's clogging a 1.5 diameter of pvc but I guess it happens)

I have seen large turbo snails clog up pipes before, a strainer would keep them out but then you would have to keep the strainer clear all the time.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by HaZRaTTy

I just dislike the Durso having 2 tanks with a Herbie then me foolishly switching to a Durso I don't know why I ever changed.

In theory if you have a bigger emergency drain then your main drain you should never have a problem.. also if you leave it long enough that both clog from some magic reason then I suppose you just maintain everything a little better.

Both are the same size. It its what comes out of the bulkhead no matter what size pipes I have above or below. I do like your suggestion, as long as I can get enough sump flow with a single 3/4 in. line

As for why I don't like my durso there's a few reasons. No matter what I do via standpipe, hole drilled and overflow water box height I still can hear it.

I could always hear mine a bit to but not bad

This overflow is setup with one 1 durso standpipe which makes me weary (Like I said before I don't even want to know what's clogging a 1.5 diameter of pvc but I guess it happens)

Mine was also a single 1.5. Never had a problem

[LoJack]

Originally Posted by HaZRaTTy

You plan on building an overflow box right?

Anyways if I was you I would, and just run both drains as drains and run a herbie system. I have no clue why people run bean animals I don't understand the concept over a herbie system. I have a durso right now and its a PITA.

Because there isn't constant adjustments like with the herbie. If my intake strainer on my pump starts plugging up with bits of chaeto and detritus, and my pump starts moving a little bit less water, the Bean self corrects for the change in water. If one of the drains gets partially plugged with a snail, or dead fish, or sheet of Nori … or any other number of things that can potentially plug a standpipe, the bean auto adjusts and allows the second drain to become full siphon, plus there is still an emergency drain in the event that both manage to plug. Not to mention, in the event of a power outage, my system starts right back up with zero fiddling around or adjusting, and runs dead silent with no salt creep.

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

What sort of problems are you having with your durso? I've been using them for 5 years on a few different tanks and have never experienced a single issue with them. Plumb it in, drill an air hole on top and you're done.

They need to be adjusted, salt creep can cover your air hole, they're noisy, air goes into your sump causing a ton of salt creep as the air dissipates, and there is no back up in case something plugs the drain.

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by LoJack

They need to be adjusted, salt creep can cover your air hole, they're noisy, air goes into your sump causing a ton of salt creep as the air dissipates, and there is no back up in case something plugs the drain.

Not sure how I would ever adjust a durso, a piece of hose in the air hole prevents salt creep, never had a noise issue, my drain went into the sump water with a tee and a 90 above the water to exhaust the air so very little air went into the sump so no salt creep (probably also what made it so quiet), I still had an emergency drain for peace of mind on each system but never needed it.