Dougs Reef

[LoJack]

The adjustment was meant for the Herbie, not the durso, my mistake. Thats a good idea for the Sump end of things, the salt creep was terrible when I ran my durso and the noise was unbearable. Good to see you put the emergency drain in. I was told I wouldn't need one when I first started in this hobby … boy were they wrong lol

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by LoJack

The adjustment was meant for the Herbie, not the durso, my mistake. Thats a good idea for the Sump end of things, the salt creep was terrible when I ran my durso and the noise was unbearable. Good to see you put the emergency drain in. I was told I wouldn't need one when I first started in this hobby … boy were they wrong lol

The sump end of the pipe mod wasn't my idea but it does work. I have been lucky that the only things that went down my pipe were fish that were too small to plug anything up. I had a yellow watchman goby that was using the pipe as a water slide every day. I eventually just left him in the sump as that seemed to be his preference anyway. I know of others that have had problems with their durso's as well and with so many different configurations such as pipe size, return pumps, etc it's not going to always work for everyone.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

Vodka solves all tank problems!

Yup.


and I,m still as confused as ever.

[Doug]

OK, I,m not drilling so its two stacks. Of course they can be whatever size, but my drains underneath are 3/4in. no matter what, although I will run 1.25in. drain pipes to the sump.

So its two Duraso or the one berbie.

Did I not make a good point before? If running both as Duraso, the return flow needs to be handled by one, right? If not and one plugs then we have problems. So thus, may as well run herbie? And limited the return to whatever a 3/4in drain can handle?

I will have a bazzillion gph in the tank from Vortechs so thats not a problem.

[HaZRaTTy]

I just dislike the Durso having 2 tanks with a Herbie then me foolishly switching to a Durso I don't know why I ever changed.

In theory if you have a bigger emergency drain then your main drain you should never have a problem.. also if you leave it long enough that both clog from some magic reason then I suppose you just maintain everything a little better.

I see no potential problems from a herbie, but I see a lot and have read a lot from the Bean animal just my opinion.

As for why I don't like my durso there's a few reasons. No matter what I do via standpipe, hole drilled and overflow water box height I still can hear it.

This overflow is setup with one 1 durso standpipe which makes me weary (Like I said before I don't even want to know what's clogging a 1.5 diameter of pvc but I guess it happens)

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by HaZRaTTy

This overflow is setup with one 1 durso standpipe which makes me weary (Like I said before I don't even want to know what's clogging a 1.5 diameter of pvc but I guess it happens)

I have seen large turbo snails clog up pipes before, a strainer would keep them out but then you would have to keep the strainer clear all the time.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by HaZRaTTy

I just dislike the Durso having 2 tanks with a Herbie then me foolishly switching to a Durso I don't know why I ever changed.

In theory if you have a bigger emergency drain then your main drain you should never have a problem.. also if you leave it long enough that both clog from some magic reason then I suppose you just maintain everything a little better.

Both are the same size. It its what comes out of the bulkhead no matter what size pipes I have above or below. I do like your suggestion, as long as I can get enough sump flow with a single 3/4 in. line

As for why I don't like my durso there's a few reasons. No matter what I do via standpipe, hole drilled and overflow water box height I still can hear it.

I could always hear mine a bit to but not bad

This overflow is setup with one 1 durso standpipe which makes me weary (Like I said before I don't even want to know what's clogging a 1.5 diameter of pvc but I guess it happens)

Mine was also a single 1.5. Never had a problem

[LoJack]

In your situation the Herbie is probably the best bet. Because I think you're right, if you went with dual Durso's, you would need them small enough that each could handle all of the flow single handedly in case of a blockage on one of the standpipes.

I would say just definitely make sure you have strainers on both standpipes, and be diligent about keeping them clean lol

[HaZRaTTy]

Yup darn noise durso!

When I ran my herbie I had a strainer on my main drain and had the other open. I the year I had the herbie I never had to clean the strainer once? I will add I never had a HA problem either. I diligently checked it on water change day but had no build up.


Good luck man, sorry for the Herbie/Durso war.

[Doug]

Great input guys. Thanks so much. I think the herbie makes the most sense, because of what we discussed. Perhaps I will get a DC return pump and just run what I can get in the one line. But pretty sure I will go herbie now and yes I will get strainers.

Thanks again.