Landlord wants my tank out!

[mrhasan]

I have decided to get tenant insurance and see whether the landlord let me stay or not. Anyone got any idea how much the insurance gonna cost?

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

I have decided to get tenant insurance and see whether the landlord let me stay or not. Anyone got any idea how much the insurance gonna cost?

Personally, as a landlord I wouldn't allow tanks either. The humidity is just bad for a house Maybe a small nano, but that's about it. And no cats.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Personally, as a landlord I wouldn't allow tanks either. The humidity is just bad for a house Maybe a small nano, but that's about it. And no cats.

Will a 70 gallon tank have any humidity impact? And cat is totally out of question; they are not reef safe.

Oh when you get time, please shift it to lounge forum

[kien]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Personally, as a landlord I wouldn't allow tanks either. The humidity is just bad for a house Maybe a small nano, but that's about it. And no cats.

Knowing first hand the damage that any tank can cause, I certainly would not blame any landlord for not allowing a tank. As careful as I am, I do spill water on my floor. I am also occasionally cleaning salt water off my walls. Also, we are always hearing how seasoned reefers spill mass quantities of water on their floors. As a landlord, you just don't know because you're not there all the time. You don't know how much water may be spilling or what the tenant might be hiding. Then there's the possibility of electrical+salt water issues. A landlord need only hear ONE of these anecdotes to be convinced that having a tank in a rental property is probably not a good idea.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by kien

Knowing first hand the damage that any tank can cause, I certainly would not blame any landlord for not allowing a tank. As careful as I am, I do spill water on my floor. I am also occasionally cleaning salt water off my walls. Also, we are always hearing how seasoned reefers spill mass quantities of water on their floors. As a landlord, you just don't know because you're not there all the time. You don't know how much water may be spilling or what the tenant might be hiding. Then there's the possibility of electrical+salt water issues. A landlord need only hear ONE of these anecdotes to be convinced that having a tank in a rental property is probably not a good idea.

Should I sell this tank and get a cube perhaps? A small 20x20x20? Suggestions please.

[kien]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Should I sell this tank and get a cube perhaps? A small 20x20x20? Suggestions please.

What I would recommend is that you come to an agreement and an understanding with whatever landlord you end up with. Clearly define what you are allowed and not allowed. There are many landlords who are perfectly fine with tenants having tanks so long as you are up front about it and agree upon parameters, whatever they may be.

It could be that your landlord was okay with the 20g because it appeared to him to be a a harmless self contained glass box of water sitting on a desk. No big deal. But then you upgraded to a much better tank with all sorts of plumbing hanging off of it, another tank underneath the main tank with all sorts of plumbing, more water, some reactor looking thing that's swirling water around. When he saw it he was probably like, HOLY MOTHER WHAT's ALL THIS?!?!

So, if you do decide to move, I would do what you have already said you are going to do, and that is to be clear to your landlord what you plan to have in terms of your tank. If you decide to stay, it sounds like you will have to turf the tank, sadly That is unless you can agree to a smaller volume with your landlord and you are willing to downgrade.

[Coralgurl]

Originally Posted by Borderjumper

I AM the evil Property Manager

Me too!

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Personally, as a landlord I wouldn't allow tanks either. The humidity is just bad for a house Maybe a small nano, but that's about it. And no cats.

I had humidity issues with just a 55 gl tank, can see it on the windows especially in the winter.

If you are looking at a condo type residence, you need to make sure you look at bylaws as well. A residential Landlord renting their condo unit is bound by those bylaws and may not share them with you or even be aware. You are governed by them just as much as they are. You should also make sure that they are permitted to rent out their unit, some condos have certain restrictions or conditions.

Kills me how many people don't have insurance, rental, home, car etc.!!! Its so cheap for such a little bit of piece of mind if anything ever goes wrong.....If you caused damages as a result of a major tank leak, do you not think the Landlord would come after you for compensation? I know you are a student, but if you can afford this hobby, you can afford tenants insurance!!!

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Coralgurl

Me too!



I had humidity issues with just a 55 gl tank, can see it on the windows especially in the winter.

If you are looking at a condo type residence, you need to make sure you look at bylaws as well. A residential Landlord renting their condo unit is bound by those bylaws and may not share them with you or even be aware. You are governed by them just as much as they are. You should also make sure that they are permitted to rent out their unit, some condos have certain restrictions or conditions.

Kills me how many people don't have insurance, rental, home, car etc.!!! Its so cheap for such a little bit of piece of mind if anything ever goes wrong.....If you caused damages as a result of a major tank leak, do you not think the Landlord would come after you for compensation? I know you are a student, but if you can afford this hobby, you can afford tenants insurance!!!

Yah I wasn't actually aware of tenant insurance till I did some searching today. And I will definitely get that when I move to the new home. But I am not sure whether the current landlord will allow that and let me stay.

[gregzz4]

Having spent many years as a tenant, always having tenant's insurance, and now being a landlord of 2 properties, I can see where he's coming from about the tank, but not the rent increase ...

He may not want the 70g if it's not on a ground/concrete floor, but that's just a thought as I don't know your situation

From a landlord's perspective, and humidity aside, I wouldn't want the headache of going through all the cleanup after a leak, regardless of tenant's insurance
For example, if the rental property needs to be vacated during repairs from water damage, the landlord will be out of pocket until the premises are again habitated
Plus, the insurance company will go over everything damaged that wasn't new, and pro-rate repair costs

We had an issue I won't go in to that cost us, out of pocket, $7,000, including 2 months of lost rental income

No matter what you decide to do, get tenant's insurance. It'll cover all your personal belongings in the event of fire and theft. Flood is stupid fine print, so ignore it

Good luck with whatever you decide to do bud

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Having spent many years as a tenant, always having tenant's insurance, and now being a landlord of 2 properties, I can see where he's coming from about the tank, but not the rent increase ...

He may not want the 70g if it's not on a ground/concrete floor, but that's just a thought as I don't know your situation

From a landlord's perspective, and humidity aside, I wouldn't want the headache of going through all the cleanup after a leak, regardless of tenant's insurance
For example, if the rental property needs to be vacated during repairs from water damage, the landlord will be out of pocket until the premises are again habitated
Plus, the insurance company will go over everything damaged that wasn't new, and pro-rate repair costs

We had an issue I won't go in to that cost us, out of pocket, $7,000, including 2 months of lost rental income

No matter what you decide to do, get tenant's insurance. It'll cover all your personal belongings in the event of fire and theft. Flood is stupid fine print, so ignore it

Good luck with whatever you decide to do bud

Thanks Boss

Well I asked him whether I can put it on the concrete floor in the basement but he won't allow it in any way. He told me told to teach him physics (huh?). Well I do understand his points and he should be worried about it but the way he put it was not right. I currently have two choices:
1. Get a new apartment which will let the tank in. I am really not looking forward to this as moving can be a bit messy and I will be wrapping up my thesis during that time too.
2. Turn back the 20 gallon, maybe sell the pump and skimmer and keep the tank and plumbing in storage so that in the future, when I can setup a bigger tank, I won't need to look for another one. Plus selling the tank will be a big hit to my pocket too so I don't wanna do that.