ICH!!!!!

Seth81 · #1 09-24-2012, 10:36 PM

I stopped using that Herbatana BS and just did a nice big 20% water change, turned up the flow on my UV sterilizer to the recommended flow rate to kill protozoa and every one looks much healthier (except I did lose my flame angel), only my rusty angel has a few spots on him, but every day the spots are getting fewer. I really thought I was going to lose my sail fin tang, phew!

mrhasan · #2 09-25-2012, 01:38 AM

Well like the saying goes "every tank is different from every other tank". Some find that herbals work while others don't. For example, ick attack is working great for me. My fishes are well recovered.

So it totally depend on the tank. If herbals didn't actually work, then those products wouldn't have been on the market for years. It does work but not in every tank.

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I stopped using that Herbatana BS and just did a nice big 20% water change, turned up the flow on my UV sterilizer to the recommended flow rate to kill protozoa and every one looks much healthier (except I did lose my flame angel), only my rusty angel has a few spots on him, but every day the spots are getting fewer. I really thought I was going to lose my sail fin tang, phew!

daniella3d · #3 09-26-2012, 01:19 AM

And probably still infected. Ich has a cycle and I suspect that when ever the snake oil remedies work is probably because the ich cycle come and go, or it was not ich to begin with.

You may see ich again eventually if you create a stress to your fish.

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My fishes are well recovered.

mrhasan · #4 09-26-2012, 01:21 AM

Yah I do agree it that. Stress does play a very important role for ich.

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And probably still infected. Ich has a cycle and I suspect that when ever the snake oil remedies work is probably because the ich cycle come and go, or it was not ich to begin with.

You may see ich again eventually if you create a stress to your fish.

naesco · #5 09-26-2012, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daniella3d

And probably still infected. Ich has a cycle and I suspect that when ever the snake oil remedies work is probably because the ich cycle come and go, or it was not ich to begin with.

You may see ich again eventually if you create a stress to your fish.

What "snake oil remedies" are you referring to?

mrhasan · #6 09-26-2012, 01:49 AM

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What "snake oil remedies" are you referring to?

I guess herbals.

Seth81 · #7 09-26-2012, 03:57 AM

I read something very interesting over at RC about Ich. Apparently Ich dies out in a tank if no new Ich infested water/fish is introduced into a system for 9 - 11 months. Something about after the 35th generation the population isn't genetically viable anymore.

I don't really understand exactly why that is, becuase Ich is a single cell organisum, it doesn't reproduce sexually. I am still skeptical, but the source seemed to be legit, and referenced some actual research.

mrhasan · #8 09-26-2012, 03:58 AM

I guess ich is one of the MOST debatable topic in this hobby :P

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I read something very interesting over at RC about Ich. Apparently Ich dies out in a tank if no new Ich infested water/fish is introduced into a system for 9 - 11 months. Something about after the 35th generation the population isn't genetically viable anymore.

I don't really understand exactly why that is, becuase Ich is a single cell organisum, it doesn't reproduce sexually. I am still skeptical, but the source seemed to be legit, and referenced some actual research.

daniella3d · #9 09-27-2012, 01:39 AM

anything that is labeled "reef safe" and that you can add to a tank with corals.

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What "snake oil remedies" are you referring to?

I read that as well that ich will exhaust itself after many generations but I know quite a few people who had ich come and go for 2 years and more without introducing any new fish so that theory might take a little bit more than 9 months.

Seth81 · #10 09-27-2012, 06:50 PM

Its not just about adding fish, just infected water, so corals too.

Totally agree anything reefsafe doesnt seem to be effective.

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anything that is labeled "reef safe" and that you can add to a tank with corals.

I read that as well that ich will exhaust itself after many generations but I know quite a few people who had ich come and go for 2 years and more without introducing any new fish so that theory might take a little bit more than 9 months.