Why the hell do people buy clown fish!??? Big problems with mine.

[pseudonym]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

What size tank do you have?

29 breeder right now. The tangs are very small juveniles waiting to grow a bit to be transferred to the 90.

Well.. it appears the one Atlantic Blue isn't the only victim. They also killed Oliver, my favourite Spotted Mandarin.

I can't express how much I hate clownfish right now.

[reefwars]

clowns are damsels , everyone thinks they are nice fish but in truth they are territorial as hell just like any other damsel fish.......i hate clownfish lol

[intarsiabox]

You roll the dice with any fish, many stories out there of "peaceful" fish being the most aggressive in the tank. I've always had clowns in all my tanks without issue but you never know what will happen anytime new livestock is added. I find clowns are really inquisative so to catch them in a stocked tank I've had sucess by leaving a net in the tank for awhile till they start checking it out and then go after them.

[pseudonym]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

You roll the dice with any fish, many stories out there of "peaceful" fish being the most aggressive in the tank. I've always had clowns in all my tanks without issue but you never know what will happen anytime new livestock is added. I find clowns are really inquisative so to catch them in a stocked tank I've had sucess by leaving a net in the tank for awhile till they start checking it out and then go after them.

Well.. I am literally sitting here with tears streaming down my face. I had to almost completely destroy the tank to get those little ****ing *******s out. The rock will not fit back in.. the coral.. I have no idea what will survive now. at least two of the sea stars went out of the water, so they are likely going to die now. Hopefully my noids will be okay, but with the movement and all that ****, I doubt it.

I am so upset right now I really can't express it...

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by pseudonym

Well.. I am literally sitting here with tears streaming down my face. I had to almost completely destroy the tank to get those little ****ing *******s out. The rock will not fit back in.. the coral.. I have no idea what will survive now. at least two of the sea stars went out of the water, so they are likely going to die now. Hopefully my noids will be okay, but with the movement and all that ****, I doubt it.

I am so upset right now I really can't express it...

I am really sorry to hear that. I've been down that road once before when I had to get a yellow tank out of an established tank as it went nuts and started stabbing all my fish. I had to take out almost all of my rock and hardly any of the fish survived their injuries.

[daniella3d]

wow, mine are sweetheart, all of them except the black and white. I have 3 black ice tank raised and they are very friendly with everything in the tank. Even when my copperband go right over their anemone they don't attack it or even react.

In my nano I have one black ice and one black and white and the black and white try to push me away with its tail when I touch near its bubble tip anemone but that's about it.

Nothing really aggressive.

[MarkoD]

Originally Posted by pseudonym

29 breeder right now. The tangs are very small juveniles waiting to grow a bit to be transferred to the 90.

Well.. it appears the one Atlantic Blue isn't the only victim. They also killed Oliver, my favourite Spotted Mandarin.

I can't express how much I hate clownfish right now.

its your own fault.

a 29 gallon tank is barely big enough just for the clowns. putting a tang (regardless of how big it is) in a tank that size is cruel.

you shouldnt be blaming the clowns, you should be blaming yourself

[Enigma]

I know that you're terribly distressed right now . . . but are you sure it was the clowns? That's a lot of carnage.

[mrhasan]

Clowns are territorial and can be even more territorial/aggressive when paired up. I think they just don't want anyone other then themselves in the tank. But on the long run, different clowns are different (some picks on new dwellers and eventually calm down while some will keep on harassing till death).

And about the starfish, they will not die even if they are exposed to the air for a long time. That's just a myth used by many people that stars die if exposed to the air even for a bit.

[pseudonym]

Originally Posted by Enigma

I know that you're terribly distressed right now . . . but are you sure it was the clowns? That's a lot of carnage.

Pretty sure it is the clowns.. they are the only things in there really that even have the equipment to hurt another fish. I don't have many fish at all. The two clowns, a blenny, two spotted mandarins and three dragon faced pipe fish and the juvenile tangs (These are VERY little tangs BTW. About the size of a small clown fish). The blenny will take a swipe at them every now and again, but it is a body swipe and not an aggressive bite. The damage to these fish really has to be seen to be believed. It looks like they have been beaten against the rocks it is so bad.

I can't think of anything else in the tank that could do that. I was thinking mantis shrimp, but I have so many small inverts and stuff, I would expect to see them go, or the pipe fish before the tangs! Not only that, but none of the other fish would be even capable of doing that kind of damage to the fish...

Some good news.. I actually found the second Tang. Bad news.. doesn't look like he will live through the night. It looks like he has been beaten against the rocks nightly. Here is a video of him. He won't even eat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w_rU...ature=youtu.be

The starfish thing.. I have heard both side of that. I got a Linkia from AI and they said the same thing, we took it out of water when putting it in the tank and it died awfully quickly, so did theirs. Since then I have been paranoid about taking them out of the water. I am really hoping they survive. They are the little red ones and are supposed to be somewhat hardy...