rough copy for nano contest 2012 thoughts and opinions wanted!!!

[sphelps]

I'll say you can't have teams if you have a rule stating no borrowing. Those two don't mix as you can borrow anything you want if you add team members....

Honestly I think you have too many rules and dates. I don't see why you can't allow borrowing and if people want to work together then let them. And what's will all the dates? Why can't people add rock/livestock from the start? You can't even add rock until 45 days after the contest starts... And then another 15 days after that before livestock is added... Seems to me the first two months are going to be pretty lame, interest will likely drop, I know mine has already Remember it's a nano tank, most people set these things up over a weekend if that. Sure if people want to go slow that's good too but forcing everyone to follow the same timeline doesn't usually work for everyone.

If people are looking for a prize I can contribute.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by sphelps

I'll say you can't have teams if you have a rule stating no borrowing. Those two don't mix as you can borrow anything you want if you add team members....

Honestly I think you have too many rules and dates. I don't see why you can't allow borrowing and if people want to work together then let them. And what's will all the dates? Why can't people add rock/livestock from the start? You can't even add rock until 45 days after the contest starts... And then another 15 days after that before livestock is added... Seems to me the first two months are going to be pretty lame, interest will likely drop, I know mine has already Remember it's a nano tank, most people set these things up over a weekend if that. Sure if people want to go slow that's good too but forcing everyone to follow the same timeline doesn't usually work for everyone.

If people are looking for a prize I can contribute.

ok im all ears , copy and paste the rules with the dates you think would work best and we can see what everyone thinks, ive had a few people say theyd like to start right away:P


the idea of the lenth is to determine how well over time your nano does if its a 2 week contest then there will not be much to judge on but the looks it self.

the month and a half in the beginning is for the reason of planning ,saving and getting what you need, if someone wishes to fly right through it they need only document everything and post the appropriate pics on the dates.

there are actually only a few dates where pics are mandatory, if not people will stop posting or only post once a month with like 50 pics:P


its basically a 6 mth journal, the judges will watch it and follow your posts, pics and updates on everything that happens.

[reefwars]

im kinda against the teams myself, if you need help with something sure but a flat out team, not officially.....i think silent teams will happen anyways

[Coasting]

Lots will happen that people wont post. Or will refuse to admit. Hey if I killed every fish off in the tank, I would replace them and not say a thing :P Cant dock points off what what we dont know!

I like the dates as they are. Make people do it properly and slowly so everyones fairly even. So the tanks are all maturing at the same time. Letting it cycle in the nano as it all begins. Just like starting our very first marine tank ever all the odd stuff that you notice when theres nothing in the tank but rock to look at.

[Borderjumper]

nov1rst/2012- official fill date:
on this date your tank should be filled with water , all plumbing done and be a running system. no livestock or rock is to be in your tank at this time. a pic of the tank running with water and the plumbing are to be provided.
nov15th/2012-rock and design placment:
by this date your little tank needs to have rock in it and sand (if using sand) , no corals fis or inverts are to be in your tank at this time just rock. a fulltank shot of your layout and structure are to be provided.
dec1rst2012-livestock additions-
if you were smart you started adding rock right after the filldate, so thats a month and now you can add livestock if you feel your tank can do so. a record of what livestock you choose needs to be noted .
jan3rd/2013- livestock additions and updates:

Your off on the dates..you say no rock can be added until nov 15, but then for dec 1 you say if you were smart you added rock right after the fill date ( nov1) which is clearly against da rulz. So on Dec 1, the rock has been in 2 weeks, not 30 daze.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Borderjumper

nov1rst/2012- official fill date:
on this date your tank should be filled with water , all plumbing done and be a running system. no livestock or rock is to be in your tank at this time. a pic of the tank running with water and the plumbing are to be provided.
nov15th/2012-rock and design placment:
by this date your little tank needs to have rock in it and sand (if using sand) , no corals fis or inverts are to be in your tank at this time just rock. a fulltank shot of your layout and structure are to be provided.
dec1rst2012-livestock additions-
if you were smart you started adding rock right after the filldate, so thats a month and now you can add livestock if you feel your tank can do so. a record of what livestock you choose needs to be noted .
jan3rd/2013- livestock additions and updates:

Your off on the dates..you say no rock can be added until nov 15, but then for dec 1 you say if you were smart you added rock right after the fill date ( nov1) which is clearly against da rulz. So on Dec 1, the rock has been in 2 weeks, not 30 daze.

nov1rst/2012- official fill date:
on this date your tank should be filled with water , all plumbing done and be a running system. no livestock or rock is to be in your tank at this time. a pic of the tank running with water and the plumbing are to be provided.


on this day you must provide pics of your tank filled with water, no liverock or livestock is to be in your tank at this time.

if you wish to add rock right after the fill date simply post the appropriate pics on the date required

nov15th/2012-rock and design placment:
by this date your little tank needs to have rock in it and sand (if using sand) , no corals fis or inverts are to be in your tank at this time just rock. a fulltank shot of your layout and structure are to be provided.

by this date your tank needs to have rock in it, if you are further ahead then this , post the appropriate pics on the dates required.

dec1rst2012-livestock additions-
if you were smart you started adding rock right after the filldate, so thats a month and now you can add livestock if you feel your tank can do so. a record of what livestock you choose needs to be noted .


im not going to peoples houses to check on everyones tanks so if your fast and want to get going take lots of pics and document, when the time comes make the posts needed. its 6mths for everyone anyway you want to time it, the dates are for judging purposes to see your tanks at different stages.

[sphelps]

I like the idea of month updates, maybe semi-monthly would work as well if people are willing. Realistically the more updates the better and judges can use that to gauge planning. If people want to spend two months planning a 10 gallon, that's awesome but I think most will need less than a few days to plan it out.

IMO Dates:

Start date: - Build thread has to be started by this day displaying empty tank or a tank in the process of being built, basically something showing the tank isn't full of water yet.

Threads must be updated at least twice monthly with pictures added at least once a month.

End Date: Tanks are judged accordingly

That's all you need, but that's just how I see it.

[Borderjumper]

Originally Posted by sphelps

I like the idea of month updates, maybe semi-monthly would work as well if people are willing. Realistically the more updates the better and judges can use that to gauge planning. If people want to spend two months planning a 10 gallon, that's awesome but I think most will need less than a few days to plan it out.

IMO Dates:

Start date: - Build thread has to be started by this day displaying empty tank or a tank in the process of being built, basically something showing the tank isn't full of water yet.

Threads must be updated at least twice monthly with pictures added at least once a month.

End Date: Tanks are judged accordingly

That's all you need, but that's just how I see it.

I see your point, but that's really not fair for the contestants who are literally starting from scratch. I'm not going to enter, but for example I have enough tanks, enough live rock and more than enough corals to have a pretty wicked little tank up running and cycled in about an hour.. Which isn't the scope of this contest. Setting time frames equals up a lot of things.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Borderjumper

I see your point, but that's really not fair for the contestants who are literally starting from scratch. I'm not going to enter, but for example I have enough tanks, enough live rock and more than enough corals to have a pretty wicked little tank up running and cycled in about an hour.. Which isn't the scope of this contest. Setting time frames equals up a lot of things.

thats the way i seen it too , i have fragtanks filled with coral, bins full of liverock i can whip together a killer small tank in minutes, then its just a pic contest

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by reefwars

thats the way i seen it too , i have fragtanks filled with coral, bins full of liverock i can whip together a killer small tank in minutes, then its just a pic contest

Nothing stopping someone from doing this anyway, why not set it up over a weekend and take 1000 pictures in the process then take it down. Post pictures according to schedule. People will do what they want anyway so I just think you'll have a better contest if you just let them.