HELP....Ginger has lots and lots of new puppies

[rstar]

Originally Posted by howdy20012002

wow, some people really have nothing better to do than to criticize others over matters that don't really concern them.
must be hard to breath in the thin air up there on the pedastal.
interesting that you would preach ethics about animals when 99.99 percent of us on this website have creatures that are most often ripped out of their home and put into glass boxes for our amusement.
did you "rescue" them???

personally, I don't care if the dog is show quality.
in fact, my dogs aren't show quality because they are red in colour and aren't recognized because of the colour...if I was a "real" breeder, they probably would have been euthanized.
but yes, they are healthy.
and yes, I will be selling them. (OMG, i know, i should burn for this..lol, imagine making profit off a pet.)
but, No, I was not trying to sell them via this thread.
Kijiji does quite well at that thanks - I guess not everyone wants to adopt dogs they don't know the history of.
I truly do admire the people who are willing to adopt. However, there are lots of people who want to have a puppy.
personally I would rather buy a puppy from someone like me than for 2 times the cost at a petstore.

WELL SAID MY FRIEND! We just bought a Doberman puppy (and yes her ears ARE cropped) and man o man you should see the looks and comments we get. Good for you for doing what you believe! Im not discounting the hard work rescuers do, but i do believe that our choices are our own and if we really wanted the opinions or the beliefs of other people we would ask! And like a previous poster say if you have ethical problems with puppys this is certain the wrong hobby for you to be in! Good luck with the puppies and MORE PICS!!!

[Borderjumper]

Beautiful pups!! I still think of the sweet pups you and Ginger raised last time.. jeeze if I were closer I would be all over getting one.. The mother looks like the sweetest dog!

[EmilyB]

Actually, I spend time doing Doberman rescue. Mostly the dogs that have the inherent diseases to the breed, like cardiomyopathy. A very difficult condition to be bred out because so many breeders are dishonest about the reasons their breeding dogs died.

Don't knock the reasons that there is health testing, and breed standards. I don't know about your breed, but I care about the improvement of mine.

[howdy20012002]

I wasn't knocking health standards in the least and couldn't agree more about trying to improve the standards of any dog.(although there are standards I don't necessarily agree when it comes to the appearance of an dog.)
Nor did I suggest otherwise.
I just don't like being preached to.

and Borderjumper - Ginger is an awesome dog...i love her to bits.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by rstar

if we really wanted the opinions or the beliefs of other people we would ask!

Posting in a public forum is asking. Id like to see the comments and looks you'd get with your ears cropped

[howdy20012002]

all i can say is WOW
what a hornet's nest I have stirred up for asking for a bit of advice on helping my dog.
interesting to see the difference in opinions.
I still feel that I have done absolutely nothing wrong with breeding my perfectly healthy dog with another perfectly healthy dog which produced these beautiful little puppies.
how is a "recognized" breeder producing a better more socially accepted product.
I can pretty much guarantee that very very few breeders would spend more time and attention to their dogs and puppies than what I am giving.
so how how are they better??????
I will continue on with updates and pictures if interest is shown and if this thread doesn't get closed due to the stormy atmoshere.
thanks
Neal

[lockrookie]

ppl should be friggin happy gingers owners care and are asking questions to help these wonderful little lives thrive and go to good homes. i commend you

recently on one of my locksmith calls i rescued a rabbit and tarantula took the spider to pet store due to my wife fear of them. but the rabbit came home for us to care for we have a daycare and i thought the kids may enjoy a rabbit with the othe pets we have.

yellow lab, sheppard collie cross(rescued from a shelter as a pup very pretty but dumber than a rock), pionus maxamillion parot, and a rescued cat found in back yard starving, pluss my two fish tanks

well this rabbit not only was abandoned but two days later we found out its sex with six babies that appeared. all survived thankfully and now we are trying to find homes for them. thing is its not the animals fault for being left behind it was the owners. it was one of lifes little surprises as im sure 11 pups was a bit of a surprise as well.

i wish you the best with the pups i have too many creatures atm so i cant have one lol.

[JenniferL]

I think no matter what you do, be it breed dogs or anything else for that matter someone is always going to have an opinion as how you should be doing it. As long as your doing it for the right reasons, your producing a healthy happy specimen and are able to bring other people some joy along the way, I say why not. Good luck along the way!

[Aquattro]

Neal, I'm sorry, but you are, by definition, a back yard breeder. You are not a real breeder, with a breeding program and specific goals for your program. Nobody is saying you're a terrible person or that you don't love your dogs, but being a great pet owner and breeding fluffy are two different things.
Real (good) breeders take great care in selecting breeding parents, for reasons that give a very good probability to producing a specific outcome. They assess the genetic lines back several generations, looking at previously produced pups for good qualities and bad.
Overall, I think you've got a great response from this thread. If you'd posted it on a dog specific board, you would have got flamed right off the board
Regardless, at this point it's done, so good luck with your pups.

[rstar]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Posting in a public forum is asking. Id like to see the comments and looks you'd get with your ears cropped

Except for the fact that in this thread Neal did not ask for anyones opinions on the ethics of him breeding his dog....