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Old 12-09-2009, 02:10 AM
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Formalin will kill everything in your tank except the fish. Run carbon, do huge water changes and check to see if your tank is going to recycle again.

When you use formalin, which you should use only in a separate tank for medicating the fish, it depletes the oxygen which is probably why your fish died.
Put a air diffuser in the tank to bring up the oxygen levels.

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Old 12-09-2009, 04:27 AM
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Well ,

So far... I have done 2 big water changes all my coral have died except the anenome looks like its at its original size but still under stress. my kenyan tree looks ok. but might be too soon to know if it will survive. So ill see what happens. I had called the store and they told me its my fault. Which it is but i would think that they would at least offer me advice on what i could do to save what i had as I have bought all equipment and over $2000 in livestock from them. but i guess it was best to hang up on me..

i wanted to cycle my tank for another week or so.. does anyone have any corals that they might be looking to get rid of.

thank you everyone for your help.
Im happy i was referred to this site.
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Old 12-09-2009, 05:15 AM
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Agree with all that has been stated so far, I personally don't use"Formulin", My Hippo Tang has gone through a few bouts and so long as he seems to be eating well I usually don't get too worried. As for your Clownfish symptoms, did they look like little tufts of cotton? if so I went through a similar situation a couple of years back. I did put them in my qt tank and treated it with "Medic" sold at J+L but I also made sure they were eating and water temp a little cooler than normal {don't know if that made a difference} and just watched them. within a week the tufts were gone and I returned them to the tank they have been happily living in for the past 2 years. Never really found out what it was but "Medic" is supposed to be coral safe as well. Don't be too quick to restock your tank until you are sure all the "Formulin" is out of the system.
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:51 AM
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It could have been a few things like flukes, ancor worms which a simple fresh water dip for a few minutes would have made most of them drop off. Could have been Ick or Brooklynella which fresh water dip would have helped him in the short term as you have to treet these diseases. Some articals to read do your research, it helps and you will not make as many rushed disitions. researching will slow you down and make you think about the situation. remember slow is always better. It is better to go slow and not loss every thing.
As for your soft corals if there is a little bit of a scrap left it may grow back.

Here anything with copper, formaldehyde is dealy to saltwater fish in higher dosage and corals low dose. There is many chemicals that are sole to treat fish that you can not introduce to corals as they will kill them, so be very carfull.

formaldehyde is used to treat Brooklynella it is the only thing that will kill the parisite.

Brooklynella is a type of saltwater ich caused by an infestation of the ciliated protozoan Brooklynella hostilis. It is most closely and commonly associated with subfamily Clownfish members of the Damselfish family, and therefore is typically referred to as Clownfish Disease. Although this parasitic scourge similar to others requires a fish host to survive, it is not particular in its quest to find one. Angelfishes, tangs or surgeonfishes, wrasses, jawfishes, and seahorses among others will host Brooklynella.

These protozoa reproduce asexually by means of simple binary fission through conjugation, which is why they are able to multiply so much more rapidly than Cryptocaryon (Marine Ich/White Spot Disease), and Oodinium (Velvet/Coral Fish Disease), and why it can kill fish within a few days and even hours upon recognition. For this reason accurate diagnosis and immediate treatment of all fish exposed to these life-threatening organisms is critical.

The above exert was cut and piasted form one of the articals below. This disease has been miss diagnosed for decades and treated wrongly acording to other articals I have read on the net. I believe I found a link on 3reef to the artical.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/ich...ooklynella.htm
http://saltaquarium.about.com/lr/saltwater_ich/34343/1/
http://saltaquarium.about.com/lr/hyposalinity/34343/3/
http://saltaquarium.about.com/lr/fish_diseases/34343/2/

I hope this helps someone,
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:06 PM
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Well ,

So far... I have done 2 big water changes all my coral have died except the anenome looks like its at its original size but still under stress. my kenyan tree looks ok. but might be too soon to know if it will survive. So ill see what happens. I had called the store and they told me its my fault. Which it is but i would think that they would at least offer me advice on what i could do to save what i had as I have bought all equipment and over $2000 in livestock from them. but i guess it was best to hang up on me..

i wanted to cycle my tank for another week or so.. does anyone have any corals that they might be looking to get rid of.

thank you everyone for your help.
Im happy i was referred to this site.

First off, I wouldn't be going back to that store ever again

Secondly, I would hold off before restocking the tank with corals. Its likely there is some residual formalin still in your tank that could affect them so it would just be a waste to add them if they're going to die. Its also likely your tank will need more time to recover if it does need to cycle. I would wait close to a month at least with weekly waterchanges and keep running carbon (change it out every week or so) just to make sure you're starting from the best point possible.

And definitely don't hesitate to post here first if you are having any issues at all, this is a pretty busy board so you'll probably get a quick answer
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