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86 | 33.99% |
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94 | 37.15% |
| I need more information before deciding. |
  
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26 | 10.28% |
| I've already had or have H1N1. |
  
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15 | 5.93% |
| I think it's a conspiracy of some sort so please don't take it! |
  
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32 | 12.65% |
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#1
10-31-2009, 06:36 AM
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Look at the other Youtube videos by the posters of those 2 videos. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=STEVEDIGIBOYtv#g http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TFPCVideoBlog#g TFPC is the Truth and Freedom Party of Canada Here are some of their other ideas: http://tfpc.ca I'm surprised they have not come up with some theory about the government and big pharma sending their UFO's to spread more flu virus in the spaceship's contrails. 
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10-31-2009, 09:06 AM
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Do people really think because they are scientists and can explain every ingredient in a vaccine, off a list that was provided to them, that it means everything is as it seems? I don't mean any disrespect and as I said earlier I don't necessarily think this one is a conspiracy but not everything can be explained in a lab. Someone please explain to me how it is so impossible for a conspiracy to be possible?
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10-31-2009, 01:07 PM
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I would like to mention something about the mercury comments above- eating 50 micrograms of tuna is very different than injecting 5 micrograms. Your body has all sorts of systems in place to filter out toxins but when you chose to inject the toxins you are bypassing all of those "filter systems"
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10-31-2009, 03:13 PM
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I keep an open mind about the stupid and evil things that the rich and powerful are capable of and nothing would really surprise but one has to use their common sense....Being powerful would be meaningless if you killed off all us little people 
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10-31-2009, 04:13 PM
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I don't recall the percentage but its well above 50% and I think closer to 80% of large corporation CEO's show behavioral and emotional characteristics of psychopathy, meaning they show chronic disregard for ethical principles and antisocial behavior. I'm sure many other powerful people/families are no different. Being powerful often times means they do not care in any way, shape or form about the little people. I think the theory of wanting to kill all but 500, 000 million people is out there too but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true that someone or an organization wants it that way and thats my only point...its possible. Dont think it will ever happen. It wasnt all that long ago there was a dictator who tried to establish a New Order in Europe and came VERY close to succeeding after occupying most of Europe, North Africa and parts of Asia. I dont think people like this are thinking too much about how many of the little guy survive. But I also dont believe that swine flu or the vaccine are part of any conspiracy...I just dont see how conspiracies are so silly. Last edited by GreenSpottedPuffer; 10-31-2009 at 04:16 PM.
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10-31-2009, 04:34 PM
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Well my daughter has something. Very high temperature, sore throat, back pain. Started
her on tylenol last night and have been giving it every 4 hours. She say's she feels better this morning and has eaten soup and toast. This really sucks! 
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10-31-2009, 01:50 PM
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I don't think you can use 'uninformed' as a blanket term to describe people's fears here. There are a lot of people out there who think it's actually the 'uninformed' who have no fear of the H1N1 vaccine. Great that we have Ron here to provide real scientific answers but also, worrying that so many others ridicule the possibility that so many of us think that something doesn't seem right about the whole thing. As GSP says, "how it is so impossible for a conspiracy to be possible?" .
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10-31-2009, 03:50 PM
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10-31-2009, 04:02 PM
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I can hardy stand to read this anymore, it is obvious to me that some people on here do not have kids or family members. I cannot believe that some people would not get this vaccine to save lives and reduce the chance of severity to family members. I have a six week old baby at home and if i brought this into my house and gave it too my children and something terrible was to happen, i would never forgive myself. Wake up people, this is not some conspiracy, this is the beginning of a pandemic, do what you will, but remember this. If you or your family decide not to take the vaccine, I truly hope you are not the one, sitting at a bedside watching as another is on a ventilator. I cannot and will not take that chance with my family. Bottom line- What are you willing to risk?
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10-31-2009, 07:16 PM
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but its not just that its unjust, and unlawful to incarcerate someone who doesn't pay taxes. because they aren't just giving you benefits from the government for the exchange of your tax dollars, they are giving you a choice: if you work in Canada we want our cut or else you live in jail. and that's not what i think Canada should stand for. because i doubt everyone lived in a giant prison before income taxes were created during WW1. so whay should that be the case now? the banking/economic systems today is seriously unhealthy if you haven't noticed. i know in the USA today 95% of all wealth is divided among less then 1% of the people, Canada is a little bit better, but not much. our current income tax code does not reflect this great divide in prosperity, and probably never will considering the lobbying powers of the wealthy. Money as Debt Money as Debt II THE CRIME OF THE CANADIAN BANKING SYSTEM please check out the Auditor generals report of 1993. from the section: Chapter 5—Information for Parliament—Understanding Deficits and Debt "The cost of borrowing 5.41 The cost of borrowing is the third area that affects the annual deficit. In 1991-92, the interest on the debt was $41 billion. This cost of borrowing and its compounding effect have a significant impact on Canada's annual deficits. From Confederation up to 1991-92, the federal government accumulated a net debt of $423 billion. Of this, $37 billion represents the accumulated shortfall in meeting the cost of government programs since Confederation. The remainder, $386 billion, represents the amount the government has borrowed to service the debt created by previous annual shortfalls. 5.42 We do not take a position on whether budgets should be balanced, or accumulated debt should be reduced. We are simply illustrating the long-term effects of compounding interest charges. 5.43 The amount of debt . The total cost of borrowing is influenced by three factors: the amount of debt, its management, and the rate of interest on the portfolio of debt. Exhibit 5.3 shows that, since Confederation, Canada has consistently used debt financing to cover some of the cost of operations. By the end of World War II, the accumulated debt was at $13 billion, giving a debt-to-GDP ratio of approximately 108 percent. Most observers of government financing would agree that the high debt-to-GDP ratio at the end of World War II was caused by the need to generate substantial industrial production for the war effort without resorting to taxation to cover its full cost. This meant that immediately after the war, there was considerable room for expenditure reduction through cuts in defence spending. "  1976 Swine Flu 46 million took the shot. 4000 claimed injury. 46,000,000/4000=1 in 11500 granted it could be more or less, depending on: how many reactions were attributed to swine flu but was another condition, or how many people were injured by the shot and didn't know or said nothing ect. Last edited by FitoPharmer; 10-31-2009 at 08:26 PM.
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