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|   I am DIYing a refugium and a sump as I have welded a stand together to incorporate the setup I want underneath my new system.  The mangroves will have 15 inches, minus what ever lighting system I put in there, of growing room for the mangroves. That should be enough if I treat them as a bonzai. Thanks Super7 | 
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|   After seeing your space allotment I had to go measure mine. From the bottom of the tank to the top of the light, mine is 29 inches. My trees are in need of a trim but the most I could cut is about 6 inches and they wouldn't look good if I did that. My light is only about two inch's thick so I'm not wasting any space there. I could have made the root system (aerial roots)a little shorter but thats what makes the trees look nice and realistic. So in a sump where they aren't for show I could have reduced the roots about 4 inch's. My trees are just over 2 yrs old and they are 2 feet tall and have to be trimmed about every 3 months.  Also if they are going straight into the sump you have to be concerned with salinity shock. Scott | 
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|   i have more than a few extra quarantine tanks and holding tanks around the house in which I could get them used to y salinity. | 
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				__________________ Christy's Reef Blog My 180 Build Every electronic component is shipped with smoke stored deep inside.... only a real genius can find a way to set it free. | 
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|   Ok...just for Christy. I have been moving everything and was getting ready to move this to my fish room. The water is down a little and the tank needs a cleaning. I have had Clown Gobi's in this tank with the trees and I use it to grow macro algae.    Here is the root system....more impressive in person. As I said these trees are about 2 yrs old but my wife says they are only 18 months....I would believe her...lol  And I had to slip a pic of my Southern Blue Devilfish in.  Scott | 
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|   Awesome Scott!! I love seeing that. Mangroves are soo cool but I don't have the space. One day though, one day....   Thanks for posting the pics  
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|   that southern blue devilfish is awseome, it reminds me of the cichlids I used to breed.  Thanks for the pics and all the info, I really apreciate it. Super7 | 
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|   I just threw mine out after growing for a years and then went on the decline. 
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|   I started off with like a dozen pods about 5 years ago. They did OK for a few years, but ridiculously slow (nowhere near the kind of growth that Skylord has seen - think stick with a couple leafs). After moving them into the new house, I lost a swack of them. The rest never flourished and declined slowly. I moved them into a 8gal salt bucket full of aragonite sand thinking that giving them room to grow the roots would be good - but instead they just died. Too bad, they're a neat thing, but I don't really have the patience to try them again. Skylord did yours start off as pods? (Apologies if you've answered this already and I just missed the info) 
				__________________ -- Tony My next hobby will be flooding my basement while repeatedly banging my head against a brick wall and tearing up $100 bills. Whee! | 
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|   Yes....we started with pods. One thing you cant see in the pics is the soil. They are in the cheaper miracle mud with sand covering the soil. It took 2 months before these trees went into the tank. Acclimating them real slow, I believe, is real important to success. Any fast changes will damage, stunt or kill these trees. Scott |