I think we should step back a bit

[Doug]

Geez, I just edited your thread again, same comments as the other thread. And you guys wonder what my problem is.

You just cant go around posting, calling other members derogatory names. And why pick on those two for spelling. Would you like a reference to all the posts from other members with terrible spelling, not to mention other things.

[Quagmire]

I haven't been on much recently,mostly due to summer and keeping busy with other things,so I haven't noticed much of a problem.Other than a recent incidence in the lounge that was handled fairly quickly.But I think a lot stems from there being so many different ways to have a successful tank,with more than a few of these ways working for some people but not for others.We need to keep that in mind when we read something being suggested,that in our experience didn't work.As an example I think we all for the most part,mix our water a day in advance.But a couple years ago I was at a guys place,who used to be on this board but is no longer with us.He checked his salinity,added salt to a jug or water,shook it up and added it to his tank.My jaw almost hit the floor,but he had a couple very nice healthy tanks.I never said a word,I wouldn't try it,but it works for him.

[Snappy]

Being a mod is a thankless job and I think we all need to remember they are volunteers just trying to help us out and make this board a better environment for learning and the sharing of ideas. Fact is they are human too.
I have said this several times before in threads similar to this but part of the problem is that with the written word "emotions" and "tones" are often very ambiguous and people can take offence where none is meant. Things are often stated very "matter of fact" and when read they generally sound worse than they were intended to be. Now because that is the case we should proof read our responses and confirm that we have actually said what we are trying to say, and yes maybe even catch the odd type-o.
A wise man once said " never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupiity." Now that doesn't mean people are stupid but that people are often self-absorbed and don't think about how they might impact others with their actions. Most things shouldn't be taken personally.
I think we may all need a little thicker skin and do our best to treat other people the way we would like to be treated. There should never be a need to try and publicly humiliate anyone, if you feel that strongly that something must be said, send a pm and work it out between the two of you. I think the old saying "consider the source" can apply more often than not so a nasty reply is most likely unnecessary.

[rigger11]

pms dont work youll still get banned if ya say the wrong thing

[Moogled]

Untrue.

Mods here are much more respectful and mature than other sites, but it's always a problem because sometimes they won't always understand the intentions behind your written word, as Greg finely stated.

This may potentially lead to banning because you don't conform to what their values of mannerisms are. What may be offensive to them may not be to another person.

Moderating is not like the law but their impression makes it out to be.

[rigger11]

pm to you sir

explaining myself for above

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Moogled

Untrue.

Mods here are much more respectful and mature than other sites, but it's always a problem because sometimes they won't always understand the intentions behind your written word, as Greg finely stated.

Thank-you for that.

This may potentially lead to banning because you don't conform to what their values of mannerisms are. What may be offensive to them may not be to another person.

We do not take a ban lightly and its fully discussed and agreed on by most all of the staff before any action is taken. And this usually follows one or more warnings, depending on the severity of the problem.

Moderating is not like the law but their impression makes it out to be.

Not sure what this means, so I will just .

[Moogled]

Originally Posted by Doug

Not sure what this means, so I will just .

I'm embarrassed to say it but my posts are sometimes 5 steps behind my thoughts so I may not even make sense!

:S :S :S

[hawk]

This is a mellow board, I don't see many threads getting out of hand or in need of locking (which thankfully doesn't happen often). Members for the most part are respectful of each other when disagreements occur. Every reefer has a different or more likely several opinion(s) on any given subject, so the occasional dust-up should be expected. I'm surprised there isn't more.
I use to frequent a billiard forum that allows any topic including politics/religion. In a real pool hall there was always a threat of getting a cue to the chops if you were too mouthy. In the pool forum there were no such constraints so it could get pretty wild. The funny thing is that two or three guys would go at each other over several days, until all of a sudden a new subject came up and all was forgotten and they carried on as nothing happened.

[Snappy]

Originally Posted by rigger11

pms dont work youll still get banned if ya say the wrong thing

Then say it in a civilized manner. There is never a need to be rude. When I coached soccer I would tell my players they were not allowed to swear, for one I don't like it but mainly it is a sign of a lazy vocabulary. Swearing is saying what comes easy without having to put any thought into it. I am sure that if a pm was sent that got a point across in a mature manner there would be no reason for a ban. Now that said, I had really hoped that readers of my post would not take the pm statement as the point I was trying to make. (no offence) I guess I must not have explained myself very well.