omg... the Ich is back . What's the deal?!?!? I need help.

[AJ_77]

I keep reading how wild-caught clownfish have ridiculously high mortality rates along the supply chain.

I also got a healthy-looking clownfish from the same store once. It was dead in 2 days.

[Bob I]

Originally Posted by AJ_77

I keep reading how wild-caught clownfish have ridiculously high mortality rates along the supply chain.

I also got a healthy-looking clownfish from the same store once. It was dead in 2 days.

Yes, and that includes tank raised ones also. I bought two tank raised percs at a local LFS, and they died. Then I bought two wild caught ones at another. They died too. I then bought two more wild caught ones at store number two. They are with me today .

So OCDP don't let a misfortune stop you from enjoying the hobby. We have all had our share of troubles. I, for one, am not sorry I stuck with it. Wives, and children are much more expensive.

[bulletsworld]

Originally Posted by OCDP

I guess it's time to start thinking about selling things off again. I can't keep going through problem, after problem , after problem... its never ending for me... and after a year or so of all these various problems, I am more than ready to throw in the towel. Call me weak if you will...

OCDP,

The thing is no one said the hobby was ever easy and its always warned saltwater is expensive, no doubt about that. Remebering most of all these critters we buy are wild caught. So alot of careful planning & reading must go in ever species before deciding to aquire it, keeping it alive, healthy and happy.

Parasites are noted to be the common reason why so many people get out of the hobby. All of us from one time or another will experiance this stress and it it a big stress no doubt. But one thing you should know for sure...your not alone.... *HUGS* And I will tell you why....

You have this fabulous reef community that is filled with amazing people here that are always willing to dish out their experiances, to lend a hand by helping lend a fellow reefer tank supplies (10gal, thier refractometer or copper & a 50w heater & mini aquaclear filter with thier own established sponges) or reefers that will even offer to treat your sick fish for you, like Bob was kind enough to do.

But long term the investment for getting some used QT supplies is well worth it.


Chin up OCDP! *HUGS*


Lee

[Bob I]

Originally Posted by bulletsworld

I can understand where your coming from here. *HUGS* Most people don't QT fish until their already sick. When the fish is already heavily infected sometimes the stress of the netting & being all cramped into a small bare bone tank with all the tankmates is just more then the sick fish can take.

That's why its always its Preventative Measure to quarantine everything before hand preventing future stress & problems. Resulting in healthy fish.

That is exactly my point (sort of)

The fish I quarantined went directly from the LFS into quarantine. They invariably became sick and died. The fish that went directly into my tank from the LFS did NOT get sick. Hence my experience says DON'T QUARANTINE.

But *HUGS* to you regardless.

[bulletsworld]

Originally Posted by AJ_77

I also got a healthy-looking clownfish from the same store once. It was dead in 2 days.

Last time I was in that store, which I love buying corals & inverts there but never fish, I was very werey of their clown fish especially since I seen percula clowns with signs of a parasite infection commonly known as Brooklynella. A parasite that attacks the gills of fish. It's also a kills fast and hard to treat. http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...oklynella.html

Now the question is... why when we buy fish in stores does it look fine? You asked the LFS when the shipment came in... last week & its still alive! So it appears to look healthy, doesn't seem shy, is eating and its is still alive and so at the time we purchase. Than later you put in your tank without QT and BAM! A few days or a few weeks, sometimes even a month (depends on the size of your tank) the fish gets infected, or the weaker ones get it first or all your fish become infected.

Well here's the answer...Most all stores run big UV Sterilzers, which CONTROL outbreaks. Since parasites have life cycles the fish is usually not in a tank long enough to get a full blow outbreak. Usually has a new home by then and then its the carrier of the disease. So without QT measures your taking a gamble. *ROLL THE DICE PLEASE.....*

But instead I choose to save myself stress & not gamble.

[danny zubot]

Whole lot O huggin' going on here!

[Bob I]

Originally Posted by danny zubot

Whole lot O huggin' going on here!

And LOVING every minute of it.

[danny zubot]

I just got a reply back from RC regarding ick parasites. They said that they can take up to 24 days to hatch at tropical temp. And up to 72 days at sub tropical temps. This must be why it is sometimes recommended that the temp in the tank be raised to speed up the process.

[bulletsworld]

Originally Posted by Bob_I

But *HUGS* to you regardless.

Awwww..... Thanks Bob!

Originally Posted by danny zubot

Whole lot O huggin' going on here!

Awww...danny needs a Hug too everyone! Yeah especially cause your dealing with this ugly Ich issue to, hey. But you decided to not take the risk and put them in QT & treatment. Good For you! Glad to hear your treatment is going smoothly too. WoOoHOOO!

[danny zubot]