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Old 01-14-2012, 12:15 AM
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I'm finally making water with a 100gpd RODI unit
I flushed the pre-filters for about 20 mins, then flushed the RO for another 20 mins. It took forever to fill the DI
The TDS today is only 8ppm going in and 0ppm coming out of the RO, so I'm not wasting the DI. I have a 45g drum. There are no Chloramines in our water here.
My questions are;
-do I need a powerhead in the storage tank
-is there any point in a heater for the storage tank as it's in a heated room
-is 50/50 waste/clean water OK for the RO membrane
Any tips would be great thanks
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:27 AM
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If you're just storing water you shouldn't need a power head, once you mix salt then use a power head for some good mixing. If you're getting50/50 water than that's awesome, I get like 80%waste to 20 good clean water.
What are you storing your water in?
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:38 AM
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Most RO systems have a 1:4 ratio. You are getting a 1:1.
What does your ro membrane's manufacturer suggest?
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:39 AM
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After a bit of lookin', I probably should mod the original post, but I'll leave it for the membrane question.
It's a Vertex unit. With the waste water valve turned off, I'm still getting waste water. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's close to your 80/20
The storage is a cleaned out food industry 45g drum
I've heard of some people keeping powerheads in their storage tanks. Maybe that's for stagnant issues?
I did a taste test. Even removing 8ppm and the Chlorine, wow, what a difference in both taste and smell
The fishies are going to love this, as is my bottled-water buyin' wife
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:41 AM
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Most RO systems have a 1:4 ratio. You are getting a 1:1.
What does your ro membrane's manufacturer suggest?
Sorry, the 50/50 was an original guesstimation, but that is way off now that I look down the drain with a flashlight.
They don't suggest. It's Vertex, and their documentation is horrible.
As stated above, with the waste water valve off, I'm probably getting at least 2 or 3:1 waste to clean. I gather the valve was built to alleviate any guessing
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Usually the systems have a flow restrictor that is not adjustable, it is matched to your membrane's g/day output and usually gives you one gal of good to 4 gal of waste. I see yours has a valve so it seems you could dial in the ratio that you want.
I don't see your auto shutoff. It must be hidden behind the canisters?
You have done a fine plumbing job.
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:19 AM
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Maybe someone else can chime in here as well but I don't think you should drink ro/di water, if you want you can dri k the water before it reaches the di phase. As long as the container isn't like an anti bacterial one then you should be fine.
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:40 AM
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Usually the systems have a flow restrictor that is not adjustable, it is matched to your membrane's g/day output and usually gives you one gal of good to 4 gal of waste. I see yours has a valve so it seems you could dial in the ratio that you want.
I don't see your auto shutoff. It must be hidden behind the canisters?
You have done a fine plumbing job.
Thanks for the kind comment.
And thanks for taking the time to look at my build to note the plumbing
It's frankly a rats nest, but I did the best considering the space constraints
The check valve is behind/between the pre-filters, as well as the raw water TDS probe, and the auto shutoff is behind the RO canister. I don't get credit for the auto shutoff location as that is where Vertex placed it, and hard as I tried, I just could not locate it any better
Concerning the shutoff;
I'm a bit dissapointed. I installed the check valve and a float. I was expecting it to totally shutoff the water. It only cuts the new/clean water flow. So unless I plumbed it wrong, I guess I won't be leaving it running 24/7. Not that I plan on it, but it would have been nice to leave it fill itself after use and not worry about wasting any more water than necessary.
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:44 AM
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Maybe someone else can chime in here as well but I don't think you should drink ro/di water, if you want you can dri k the water before it reaches the di phase. As long as the container isn't like an anti bacterial one then you should be fine.
Thanks for the heads up
Ya, I agree, drinking DI water is not so healthy. Besides the fact that we will not need to run the DI much with our clean city water, the plan is to only drink the RO water, and only use the DI for the fish if the raw water ever gets dirty enough, such as after a storm
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:46 AM
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The container is not anti-bacterial. It's just a plain old, used food plant drum
It contained sugar for making chocolate and I washed the bleep out of it with direct hot water from our heater, then wiped 'er down and drilled away
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