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Old 08-20-2003, 03:28 PM
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I'm new to the website, and been doing a lot of reading to catch up to where everyone is at. But I have a problem, well I think its a problem.

I get a scum across the top of the water (similair to an oil slick). Its been getting worse with the summer warmth and I didn't have this problem in the spring. I can suck it off the top of the water when doing water changes but it returns within a day. Water testing shows nothing wrong, and everything in the tank is happy. My protein skimmer is working fine and is skimming the water. Anyone seen this? I am not having algae problems. I found the "black powder" I'm using is having trouble 'raining down' on my tank since it get caught in the slick.

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Old 08-20-2003, 03:34 PM
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Sounds like you need something to break the surface tension. Aiming a powerhead at the surface would do it, or using some type of surface skimmer.

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Old 08-20-2003, 03:40 PM
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The seaclone is a 'hang-on the side" type so the water coming from the skimmer breaks the surface and I have a powerhead angled toward the surface. I was 'white capping' my water for a while trying just what you thought. The skim on the surface would just swirl around. Didn't help at all. I've seen angled the powerhead less since I was getting water on my floor lol
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Do you have a sump? One of the reasons for having a sump is to have that oil slick drain into the sump, get mixed up into the watrer colum and then be pulled out by the skimmer.

If you don't have a sump then maybe try an overflow box for the skimmer, that will help pull stuff off the water surface.

I think, in time, you will find that the Seaclone is an underpowered skimmer, and I have no idea what black powder is. Is that a Mark Weiss product????
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Old 08-20-2003, 03:45 PM
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Do you get a lot of bugs (flies, mosquitos,etc.) in your tank this time of year?

What about the intake for the skimmer? Could you rig up a type of in-tank overflow box that would suck the surface water into your skimmer?

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Old 08-20-2003, 04:03 PM
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To be dreadfully honest this is a 'good enough' tank. I'm constructing a 130Gal to replace it. At the same time I didn't want to totally neglected it. Thats a good point about the over flow. Unfortunately not realistic for this small tank. But that would mean I won't have this problem in my new tank. What is the skimmer of choice right now anyway? Saves me reading 100 and 1 posts on skimmers.

I don't want to be over skimming. I'd really like to try not using a skimmer and rather rely on bioload to to clean my tank. Mangroves and the like. But I think the volume I would need would be huge. I'm of the opinion that over skimming is stunting coral growth in a lot of systems. Your opinion?
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Old 08-20-2003, 04:06 PM
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Oh hey I should answer all the questions. I could rig the skimmer to suck closer to the surface however being open top evaporation becomes and issue. I don't allow my water to dip too lower but I don't want the chance of running the pump dry. And no bugs. And no sump.
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Without a surface skimmer (overflow, etc), you'll always have this. A good way to reduce the amount of scum is to rinse any frozen foods before feeding and wash your hands well before playing in the tank. A lot of the scum is oils from hands and food.
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Old 08-20-2003, 06:21 PM
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Good call, I don't rinse the food, I always wash my hands. I''' try that. I was fearing poor water quality or something. And then thinking my tests are wrong.
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Hi Wilty, welcome to the board. I have a similar setup as yours and had the same problem with the surface film. I only have this problem on my 29gal reef which is sump less. I use one of the Fluval surface skimmers hooked up to a power head and this has cleared up the problem. I just took the power head and the surface skimmer to Home Depot and rummaged through the plumbing department to get the two to fit together. I hope this helps
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