Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Reef

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-29-2014, 03:26 AM
FishyFishy!'s Avatar
FishyFishy! FishyFishy! is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary SE
Posts: 1,674
FishyFishy! will become famous soon enough
Default Just got zapped hard!

So im holding some good live rock for my new build. Lots of life etc. 2 tanks with a powerhead, a heater and a small HOB filter.

Today I went to touch the water (as I always do to make sure that my thermometers are accurate). And it felt like someone punched me in the chest! Got it bad enough to knock me on my a$$.

So im thinking heaters, as these are the common culperits. Im kind of scared to test my theory though. Dont really want to replace the heater and try it again lol. How do I test for voltage without killing myself?

And the big question...now that I know this is happening....is everything dead in the rock now? Or would the current not harm bacteria etc?. I havent gone back out to look for pods etc.
__________________

They call it addiction for a reason...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-29-2014, 03:37 AM
intarsiabox intarsiabox is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sherwood Park
Posts: 1,419
intarsiabox is on a distinguished road
Default

I use a Fluke pen to test for A/C voltage on wires. It looks like an a fat plastic pen that just needs to be close to the current and then lights up if there is power there. I haven't tried it in water though and without purposely adding electricity to my tank I can't say for sure if it works. They are cheap and other companies besides Fluke make them. They come in handy for wall receptacles, testing extension cords, etc. If you know any electricians they would be likely to have one to try.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-29-2014, 03:57 AM
lpsreefer's Avatar
lpsreefer lpsreefer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Calgary (NE Country hills)
Posts: 513
lpsreefer is on a distinguished road
Default

I would get a grounding probe. They are fairly cheap.
I had a similar problem turns out it was my skimmer pump cord. It was wearing.
__________________
I have a little tank and little fishes!
Hmmm..... Fishies
That is what I keep telling myself.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-29-2014, 04:00 AM
mark's Avatar
mark mark is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Edmonton AB
Posts: 4,212
mark is on a distinguished road
Default

using a gfi?
__________________
my tank
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-29-2014, 04:28 AM
hillbillyreefer hillbillyreefer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central, AB
Posts: 471
hillbillyreefer is on a distinguished road
Default

Get a cheap multi meter, stick the black end into the earth pole on a three prong plug, put the other end in the tank. Get a helper to unplug things one at a time, when the voltage drops to zero the last item unplugged is the culprit. Good luck.

Edit:
When a heater went bad in my display I had the same shocking experience, I didn't notice any damage to the livestock in the tank. The fish were a bit skittish, but no harm done. The fish that were in there are still in there after about 2 years.

Last edited by hillbillyreefer; 07-29-2014 at 04:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-29-2014, 04:44 AM
kien's Avatar
kien kien is offline
¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸. ><(((º>
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 7,665
kien will become famous soon enoughkien will become famous soon enough
Default

holy frak! Glad to hear you're ok! Would hate for you to have yet another excuse not to finish your build.

All kidding aside, keeps us updated on what you find! You've got me scared to put my hand in my tank now!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-29-2014, 05:10 AM
hfp75 hfp75 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: calgary ab
Posts: 431
hfp75 is on a distinguished road
Default

remember that fish in the tank are not grounded.....

when you reach in, you probably are grounded and the current travels through you.... & thats what hurts.....
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-29-2014, 06:33 AM
scherzo's Avatar
scherzo scherzo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 243
scherzo is on a distinguished road
Default

I've often wondered why Neptune hasn't made some kind of voltage detector for the Apex. Or any other controller manufacturer...

Hmm.. maybe I should make something.

It really is as simple as having a voltage meter in the water and then the other end to ground. It could monitor the voltage in your tank.

FWIW you'll always get some stray voltage in the water. It is when it gets high that it is a problem. And yes - I know.. it is the current that kills you not the voltage... Either way - some way to indicate that it is safe for me to put my hand in the water.

Glad you survived. The most I ever got was an uncomfortable tingling. Found the heater that was the culprit.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-29-2014, 01:04 PM
FishyFishy!'s Avatar
FishyFishy! FishyFishy! is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary SE
Posts: 1,674
FishyFishy! will become famous soon enough
Default

I have a multi-meter. Would that work if I dipped the ends in the water?
__________________

They call it addiction for a reason...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-29-2014, 01:06 PM
FishyFishy!'s Avatar
FishyFishy! FishyFishy! is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary SE
Posts: 1,674
FishyFishy! will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kien View Post
holy frak! Glad to hear you're ok! Would hate for you to have yet another excuse not to finish your build.

All kidding aside, keeps us updated on what you find! You've got me scared to put my hand in my tank now!

LOL!!!! No excuse...YET. I'm still kickin! haha.

After work today I'm going to take the heaters out, and inspect all the powerheads as well. See if I can find anything obvious.
__________________

They call it addiction for a reason...
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.