start from scratch and add fish coral and all in a day.

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by acepumping

Hey. Just wonderin about starting my 150 gal with dry rock and adding all corals and fish in at one tike on day like 2 or 3.. I am gonn be using that stabalize stuff. Just windering if anybody else has tried this kindof startup here. If so I would like some feedback thanks a million
Dave

Besides what's already been stated ...

It's not very often that I pipe up on these threads when people are going to kill critters, but

Why would you want to rush it, and subject your critters to a possible lethal environment, or just flat out kill critters ?

Besides the fact that you are going to use 'that stabalize stuff' ...
How is that going to help you when you haven't mentioned what you will do otherwise to keep the fish healthy ??????

Ace, back away from the tank ....
Maybe you will have success, but most likely you will kill every critter you put in there - and that's a total waste of life

[spit.fire]

I have found that the key to success with a reef tank is Patience...

Now that my tank is over a year old I finally feel that is cycled enough to add fancy coral and the expensive fish I want

[Aquattro]

With dry rock, it's just not gonna happen. I did this with my tank, but all rock was real live rock that had cured separately for 2 weeks with about 30% of it coming from my previous tank.
Without a full compliment of bacteria, you're going to kill things.

[howdy20012002]

even if there is added bacteria for the fish byproduct, it takes months typically for a system to properly "level out" and mature.
I personally think you would be throwing out a lot of dead coral and a lot of money down the drain.
you can speed up the initial process perhaps by adding the "stabilty stuff"..maybe throw in a fish or two to start (durable ones)..but I would not go beyond that step for a while.

[lockrookie]

You asked the question

[acepumping]

Its all good. Just wanted opinions not smart _-_ remarks lol.. so yes I did ask a question rookie.. I am going to do it the old school proper way but was thinking about a change up. Thats all.. thnx for you opinion rokkie lmfao

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by acepumping

Its all good. Just wanted opinions not smart _-_ remarks lol.. so yes I did ask a question rookie.. I am going to do it the old school proper way but was thinking about a change up. Thats all.. thnx for you opinion rokkie lmfao

I'm sure the next time you ask a question you'll get better answers

[albert_dao]

To be fair, I do it all the time <___<

[gobytron]

Originally Posted by acepumping

Its all good. Just wanted opinions not smart _-_ remarks lol.. so yes I did ask a question rookie.. I am going to do it the old school proper way but was thinking about a change up. Thats all.. thnx for you opinion rokkie lmfao

Welcome to canreef.

As a noob, this is what you can expect.
best keep your questions to yourself and do a little reading instead.

[albert_dao]

Oooooookay, listen, here's how you do it:

*Disclaimer 1, I do this all the time. But I know what to monitor and have a ton of water premixed in case anything goes south. Proceed at your own risk and don't be a scrub and keep on adding livestock if you are experiencing negative water quality.

Disclaimer 2, if you are a noob, stop reading now and just keep doing what everyone else is telling you to.

1. Set up tank. Make sure you have good equipment and lots of flow (the flow part is important). If you have any real liverock, it would be to your benefit to use it. If you don't, well, you don't.

2. You'll need a substrate for the bacteria. I use a 1:5 mix of Zeovit and Hydroton. Place this into a suitable container (media reactor, canister filter, whatever), you'll need at least 1 liter of this media per 100 gallons of water.

3. Seed the tank with a product like Zeobak or MB7 (I use Zeobak, your mileage may vary with other products) at triple the recommended dosage.

4. Add enough household ammonia (or pee, yes, pee, haw haw haw) until you get an ammonia reading of 0.25-0.50, NO MORE. If you overdose, you will retard and delay this process.

5. Add a DOC source. I use vinegar mixed with vodka and acetic acid (1:1:1 ratio by volume) at the rate of 1mL/gallon. This should cause a bacterial bloom which will cloud the water nearly opaque. Keep your skimmer running and empty the cup as necessary.

6. Continue adding bacteria (normal rate) and DOC (1mL/50 gallons) daily until the bacterial bloom subsides. This can take anywhere from three days to 15 days. Test your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels daily, twice a day if you're bored.

7. Enjoy your cycled tank. Continue adding bacteria until you run out. Dose DOC source as needed (test your NO3 and PO4 levels to determine the dosing rate).

This method works for me 100% of the time and I can put my money where my mouth is (read: conspic angel and gem tang +++).

Edit #1: I r bad english.

Edit #2: I know this isn't a one-day recipe, but I doubt there is one, short of being plumbed directly into a GIANT water source which can naturally buffer all of the bad stuff (e.g. the ocean).

Edit #3: Clarified the term 'bacterial bloom'.