Sick and Tired of Waveline pumps

[Myka]

Originally Posted by daplatapus

Myka, when the controller dies, everything dies
Fishy,Fishy: I was under the impression (when they first came out) that Waveline were the top of the line. These are definitely NOT Jabeo pumps.

Well that's lame. I didn't read all that other thread. Wouldn't there be a fairly easy way to just go around the controller and use it as an on/off pump? Or, could you buy a controller from a different pump (they have replacements I think for other brands, don't they?) and integrate it?

Everyone thought the Waveline pumps were top of the line until the big players released DC pumps that were in the $500+ range and we realized that the Waveline is a cheaper model (and performs as such). Not as cheap as the Jebao, but it may as well be with all the failures.

[daplatapus]

Ya, what's weird is with the 1st generation controller I got with the pump, I was probably pushing over 1000 gph. According to the factory charts I should be able to push over 1300 gph at 12' of head, so I figured it was probably close.
A friend had their's running far earlier than mine, but it fried the controller because of poor cooling design. RLSS sent us all new controllers even though I hadn't even run mine yet. My friend ultimately shut their tank down and got out of having a tank because of the damage everything caused - but that's a whole other story....
So I finally have mine up and running and since I still had old controllers, I decided to run them side by side with the new controller to see the difference when I filled up my 210. I'm running 2 separate returns that run side by side so the comparison should be spot on. Well the new controller I bet doesn't put any more than a few hundred gph. It totally sucks compared to the old controller.

I would TOTALLY be open to running it wide open with no control. With the head pressure I'm running at I need all I can get. I just need to figure out how to make that happen without burning up the pump

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by daplatapus

I would TOTALLY be open to running it wide open with no control. With the head pressure I'm running at I need all I can get.

Why not just run a regular pump? I don't get the variable control thing if you're going to run it wide open anyway?

[daplatapus]

My biggest selling point on the DC pumps is vibration. No matter how much I isolated my Reeflo Barracuda or my Laguna pond pump, you hear it vibrate through the floor. With the DC pumps, they are DEAD silent. No vibration what-so-ever

And as hard as it is to conceive... that tiny little DC12000 (when the controller was working as it should) pushed as much water as the Reefflo Barracuda

[xenon]

I setup an EcoTech Vectra L1 pump on our new invert system and the amount of water it flows is so impressive. I am feeding 8 tanks and its set @ 40%!!!

If you can wait, apparently they will be available for sale in Canada in February.

[daplatapus]

Originally Posted by xenon

I setup an EcoTech Vectra L1 pump on our new invert system and the amount of water it flows is so impressive. I am feeding 8 tanks and its set @ 40%!!!

If you can wait, apparently they will be available for sale in Canada in February.

What are they like with head pressure though, that's the killer for me. Probably somewhere between 12-14' of head.


EDIT: just checked it out - probably just shy of 1000 gph....

[xenon]

Originally Posted by daplatapus

What are they like with head pressure though, that's the killer for me. Probably somewhere between 12-14' of head.

The output of this pump is 1" but I used a 1" to 1.5" bushing to convert it to 1.5" and its pumping water up a 1.5" line 6' into a manifold that T's off 9 times (8 tanks + external skimmer). Each tank has two 90 degree elbows before the water hits the tank. That is a ton of head pressure if you ask me.

Each tank has baffles so that I can separate the shrimp/crabs/snails/etc so its a flow through design. The bottleneck of my system is the 1/4" teeth in the baffles. The drains can handle more flow but the teeth can only handle so much.