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			 Beananimal seems like excess to me. Herbie does everything you need with one less pipe and two less valves. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 I have had Herbie overflows for years and I am happy with them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			When I first read the Beananimal overflow thread on RC, I would not see any advantage to it over the Herbie overflow. Maybe I am missing something, but to me a Herbie works fine and the Beananimal overflow seems like unnecessary complexity for no reason. 
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			 You only need as many valves in the BA as you do in the Herbie. I am also a huge fan of the Herbie, but generally employ them on tanks that have the corner overflow pre-built only. Redundancy is an immensely important and often overlooked paradigm in this hobby. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 But... The Herbie has redundancy built into it... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 I agree, the BA is really not needed. I have both my tanks set up on herbie (including one with a HOB) and have never had issues. My 210 is 1.5 but I don't see an advantage to 1.5 on a 70. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I use acrylic baffles in a glass aquarium. They work fine, I just have them stuffed in between a big bead of silicone. I even built a flat top piece for a sock out of acrylic and it works fine as well Also where did you hear mags were quiet.... 
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			~ 210 Gallon mixed reef ~ 37 Gallon Mixed Reef ~ Herbie drains for life! Last edited by CM125; 01-08-2015 at 01:51 PM.  | 
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			 I didn't hear anywhere that mags were quiet.  I just found a used return pump and was thinking about picking it up.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 oh ok, good, cause they are not lol. Good pump though 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 I use a Tunze Silence 1073.04, and it is T'd off to run a GFO and carbon reactor. The flow between those and the DT is perfect! It is a very quiet pump, and has served me very well for two years with biweekly cleanings. IME, Magdrives are fairly loud in comparison, but are bullet-proof! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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