Flame angel... I give up...

[mikellini]

I was basing my thoughts on the idea of water volume, not dimensions. I don't care how you stretch it, that's not enough gallons for the stock list

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mikellini

I was basing my thoughts on the idea of water volume, not dimensions. I don't care how you stretch it, that's not enough gallons for the stock list

Yes I get that , but still it's an opinion that must have been based off something .....what was that something?

So how is it not enough gallons , what is enough gallons .... your obviously implying that gallons alone is enough to stack a list off of correct?


So what number is a good number for these fish and I'll make up a dimension , I'm sure I can squeeze it small enough that you would consider the dimensions to outweighs The gallons at some point right

For example a tank that is only 6" x 6" but is 500 ft long is this ample for a lot of fish or no?

That's about 935g but the poor fish only have 6" of space to swim in , but gallons wise I should be able to keep a small shark or ray.


I'm not saying there's room for extra fish or he's under stocked but like the rest of you I have very little info and at the end of the day gallons alone are a poor way to base an amount of fish off.

If we set up fifteen tanks and gave them to fifteen people and asked each to stock as many fish as they felt was fair and comfortable for the fish....do you think most would have the same numbers and sizes?

While I'm sure a lot will be similar they all will differ in how each person sees an aquarium , space and animals requirements and they will base their decision on that or at least let it be a factor in their decision.

So it's pure personal preference on how many fish you can have in a tank .

Does an Achilles tang deserve 120" of length or would he prefer a cube that has twice the amount of gallons then the 10ft of tank ?

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by reefwars

Does an Achilles tang deserve 120" of length or would he prefer a cube that has twice the amount of gallons then the 10ft of tank ?

Gonna go with the 10' for that guy

For me, it's simple. I read a list, I think nothing of it, or I do think something of it. This list, first thought was "wow, that's a lot of fish". So in this case, I think it's overstocked. Just because my mind made it up.

So, if anyone ever wonders if they have too many fish, PM me a list with tank size, and I'll see how my brain reacts. This is a FREE service

I don't need dimensions or size of fish or anything tangible, just a list and gallons. It's a gift I have, and I'm willing to share it.

[reefwars]

But that's just it

No one can tell you if your overstocked with any merit behind it If its based off of their personal opinion lol and if they did wouldn't you want to know what you were missing when you first added them? So basically I take some ones word that they say I'm overstocked...with no science behind the claims other than that's not enough gallons .

I don't know about anyone else but I'm not about to sell half my fish based on someone's moral feelings lol

I think I'm overstocked actually I'm sure of it lol ,my list isn't as big as his but does thAt really matter...overstocked is overstocked or is there a waaaay overstocked?

His tang is maybe 3" while mine are 8" but he has twice as many so where am I now in the math lol



I know there's no real answer but we can't really push our ideas of a stocked tank or overstocked tank based purely on personal preference can we , This is kinda like the bioload , we tell people their bioload is high but what is that really lol we tell people they are overstocked but what makes a tank overstocked in regards to gallons.....is it volume? Do fish even know what volume is ....


Only you can prevent forest fires....errr uh I mean decide what right for your tank based off e info you yourself have calculated

[Aquattro]

My "gift" has merit. It works 100% of the time. You're just looking at it wrong

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

My "gift" has merit. It works 100% of the time. You're just looking at it wrong

Well shoot if it works 100% of the time then why didn't you say so lol



I know where everyone is coming from that posted their concerns , I do , but I also have to give people advice on how many fish can they have almost dialy , it's actually a very common question that has a not so easy answer.


The answer seems to vary every time I say it lol


Personally I think a combination of things like size of tank in dimensions , size of fish , fish eating and swimming habits , fish community habits as well the other facts that no one has mentioned like equipment , rock layout has to play in the whole scheme of things.

[Aquattro]

Ya, being serious for just a moment, yes, you're right. A tang needs a 6' tank. Except what if that tank is full of rock. Then an empty 4' tank is better. Right? Maybe, maybe not.

If you can maintain water quality, fish don't get sick from stress, don't kill each other fighting, and there's room for all of them to be fully submerged, then you're good.
Unless you're not. It depends.

Regardless of the state of this particular tank's stocking, I don't think it has any bearing on the fish dying. I'd have to double check with my brain tho, it may disagree.

[jorjef]

If there is a lot of fish scraping it out.... Overstocked....If a fish can hardly turn around... Oversized. If your skimmer can't keep up for the amount of fish you have..... Call it what ever you want. I know when my house gets overstocked with people I start to chase them out

[reefwars]

So what do you guys thnk , am I overstocked then ?

200g


1 Large yellow tang -6-8"
2 Large bristle tooth tang(x2) both at 6"
1 Large powder brown tang -5"
1 Med convict tang /3"
1 Large gold rimmed tang -4"
3 clownfish all about 2-3"
3 cardinals -all about 3-4"
4 neon gobies all about 3"
1 citron goby -2"


17 fish in total most are large and getting much bigger as the years go by. My system is healthy as. System is getting , fish are fat and everyone gets along.

But forget the facts lets talk gallons , am I overstocked?

[Aquattro]

Nope, you're good. Carry on. (I know, amazing, right??)