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Old 07-10-2014, 11:10 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about the current string of issues you've been having. I saw your build thread and your tank looks/looked really nice! I am extremely jealous of your cowfish too. I saw a baby one in a LFS a while ago and it was sooo hard not to bring him home.

albeit my tank is smaller and newer than yours, and didn't have too much coral in it when I had cyano so I'm not sure I can compare my cyano issues/remedies to yours... But I was also weary of putting chemicals (even chemiclean) into my tank.

I ended up going the blackout/more flow/less food route. I would suck up as much as I could during a water change, and I blacked out my tank for probably three days (no sunlight or anything). I also made sure my filters and junk in my RODI unit were working properly. After the blackout period I did another change, and I would slowly ramp up the amount of time my lights were on, starting with as short as 4 hours a day. I still spoil my fish with food, but it seems my nutrients are being exported sufficiently now.

I read that some people with really bad cyano outbreaks would do the blackout, then dose the chemiclean while the cyano is down. Others said that tiger conches can eat it too.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:21 PM
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Yah that's the thing with this stuff, I've done all of that. I've done black out, I've done black out plus chemi-clean, I've done just chemi-clean (multiple times), I've done spot treatments with hydrogen peroxide, I've done whole system dosing with peroxide, I've changed flow patterns (I have this stuff growing on the screen plate of my vortech's at times, it's not a flow issue), I've done massive sand vacuuming, I've done manual removal (my tank requires a ladder to work in, not my favourite thing to do let me tell you), I've turkey bastered my rocks every day, I've starved my fish, I've wet skim, dry skim, and I'm presently spending an insane amount of money on Rowa-phos and changing it out every week.

The best I can get is a 2 week reprieve. It always comes back, and it comes back everywhere. It eventually reaches a point where I have to intervene because it damages corals, but it feels like that just sets up the cycle again.

If it was just cyano, I could probably deal with it, but the cyano LOVES the aiptasia. It's like the little aiptasia gardens create the perfect micro conditions for cyano, and you can never get at all of it, around the base of the anemones is the first place it comes back, it's like the two feed each other.

and all the while, many of my corals are looking the best they've ever looked. All the places they had died, I cut them back, and all the places I cut them back have erupted in multiple growth tips, so their colours are more concentrated and vibrant than ever.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:46 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about the current string of issues you've been having. I saw your build thread and your tank looks/looked really nice! I am extremely jealous of your cowfish too. I saw a baby one in a LFS a while ago and it was sooo hard not to bring him home.
Well if you want a happy, healthy, foot long cowfish, he is aaaaaaaall yours.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:52 PM
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Haha, if only I had a big enough tank! He would make mine look like a shoe box.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:57 PM
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Haha, if only I had a big enough tank! He would make mine look like a shoe box.
drat. If this is a real plan that I'm actually going to do, I would need to give up most of my fish. My powder blue, rabbit fish, and cowfish could not all fit in a 45 gallon sump chamber.

Now also now that I'm actually thinking this through, I could probably also cut out one entire overflow and just plug the bulkheads. It's ridiculous that I've got two, they're both massive, and the way they're plumbed together I've never been able to properly run a herbie. That would prevent me from having to rip the tank out of the wall.

Hmmmm. Now I'm getting ideas. I'll have to talk to the guys at concept and see if they think it's possible to modify this tank in place to give it one external overflow...
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:09 AM
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I think I just figured out that what I want to do it possible. It wouldn't be totally external, but I could install a plastic coast 2 coast overflow on one side of the tank, and drill a couple of holes for a bean animal. I'd get my full 6 foot viewing width, and I wouldn't have to rip the tank out of the wall (it's got a screwed in frame around it on one side, it's removable, but I'd need to re-paint).
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:12 AM
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Anyone know what diameter of pipe I'd need for a bean animal on a 275 gallon display being powered by a reeflow dart?
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Old 07-12-2014, 01:44 AM
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If you have that serious of an aiptasia problem then everything else is moot. Shut her down and re boot. Jmo.
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Old 07-12-2014, 04:38 AM
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I could install a plastic coast 2 coast overflow on one side of the tank
Plastic ? Isn't your tank glass ? Not a great idea for bonding
Use glass to glass and silicone that bad boy

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Anyone know what diameter of pipe I'd need for a bean animal on a 275 gallon display being powered by a reeflow dart?
Use this calculator Drain/Overflow Size
Pay attention to the last line after you submit your GPH - it gives you the linear measurement for an overflow weir

Adam, I know your tank has been trying to suck the life out of you ...
I'm going through some similarly taxing issues with mine - I've thought about a reset and have a plan in place if I decide to go that route

I've also gone the Chemiclean route, but it's trying to come back
My issue was overfeeding in an attempt to bring my NO3 up. I read that I needed at least a small amount in conjunction with 0.03 or so PO4 to help my SPS. That didn't go well and now the algae has quite apparently found a foot-hold

How old is your LR and was it clean when you started this new build ?
With all the problems that you've had this year, I'm wondering if your LR is in need of a total clean as a thought came to mind that maybe it's leaching PO4
You've had some significantly large poopers in your tank and I'm suspecting that your rock is plugged up

I know my rock is plugged as I haven't turkey-basted it enough over the last 2 years - I'm going through a GHA issue and blah blah blah I'll deal with it

Good luck with your's bud

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Old 07-12-2014, 05:11 AM
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I too am thinking of resetting my tank.sps are dying not sure why when all the parameters are ok,but quitting is not an option!
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