I'm tired of seeing "frag packs" at retailers

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by jorjef

I'm can hear all the retailers muttering under their breath after reading this thread. You know they are in the exact same situation, well not EXACT but when they put in order to their suppliers. sure there will be the "gotta have" few corals that they can request but then need to fill out the order with "give me two frogspawn, three torches, five brains, 10 zoa colonies etc etc. and end up with some nice ones and the sub par corals that sit in their tanks for weeks. They are really in a tough situation trying to move the ugly betty's

Riceboys idea sounds interesting.

Sure. But that's not my problem that they bought subpar corals. That's something they need to discuss with a supplier. I should not have to buy ugly corals to pad an owners pocket and cover their stock issues (if that's truly the case).

And the frag Packs I have seen do not have poor pieces. I would have bought any one of them, if I could have. But I don't want five.


The only ones as single were a joke... And another place had "no individual".

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by paddyob

Sure. But that's not my problem that they bought subpar corals. That's something they need to discuss with a supplier. I should not have to buy ugly corals to pad an owners pocket and cover their stock issues (if that's truly the case).

And the frag Packs I have seen do not have poor pieces. I would have bought any one of them, if I could have. But I don't want five.


The only ones as single were a joke... And another place had "no individual".

I guess you're damned if you do or damned if you don't.

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by jorjef

I guess you're damned if you do or damned if you don't.

Nope. Just disappointed I can't just walk in and buy something anymore. If its on the shelf... It should be for sale. No questions. No gimmicks. No problems.

It costs money for a staff member to spend time with a customer, and bad business is when the customer leaves empty handed and buys from the other guys. At least it used to be bad for business.

Maybe business is too good?

[paddyob]

Maybe the retailers can chime in... The ones that remain anyhow.

maybe they can explain why it's better to lose a sale than break a package up.

[jorjef]

I think you should start up a shop and run those other non comsumer friendly S.O.B's out of business.

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by jorjef

I think you should start up a shop and run those other non comsumer friendly S.O.B's out of business.

Funny. Yea.

Thanks for your input.

It's times like this I actually miss blue world.

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by paddyob

Thanks for your input.

And I'm sure all the retailers are thanking you for yours. You know none of them will come on here and reply to this. It's not that they are hiding anything it's just a no win situation for them when customers refuse to see both sides of the story.

[denny_C]

Originally Posted by paddyob

Maybe the retailers can chime in... The ones that remain anyhow.

maybe they can explain why it's better to lose a sale than break a package up.

ill see what i can do anyways lol


i guess for every person who doesnt buy a pak theres ten others who do , im sure if they werent selling there paks they wouldnt be doing it , i make on average 5 paks of zoas a week and i do not split them up , im sure theres an angry guss here and there who wants that one item , but theres also the sell it all at once angle which also helps bring down paks overall pricing as opposed to per polyp pricing.



for example heres one of my paks:

as a package i have it posted as $100.00

pak3: $100.00

aussie delightful paly: 6polyps
purple death palys: 2polyps + babies
red people eaters: 4 polyps
armor of god paly: 1polyp
candy apple redds - 1 polyp


as individuals i sell them as:


aussie delightful paly:6 polyps @ $20 per polyp
purple death palys: 2polyps + babies @ $15 per polyp
red people eaters: 4 polyps-@$5 per polyp
armor of god paly: 1polyp @ $15 per polyp
candy apple redds - 1 polyp@$15 per polyp

so in theory or on paper im ripping myself off as singles i could be getting $200 but as a package i offered it for a more reasonable price .

i sell each and every pak , all five, weekly so i dont see a need to break them up unless they werent selling.

i remember the large 12" combo zoa rocks years ago at lfs being 300-400 and littered with several diff types , alot of times i would get mad and say geesh i just want that one but every other week id go in and sure enough it was sold and gone

while im sure theres always one person who hates this , there are prob ten others for that one who do in fact like it.

to each their own i guess

its always been like that though , the nicer stuff will always be on the border line of for sale and not for sale lol its not a new thing its been like it since i started the hobby and other hobbies im in.


now with all that said , if theres a single frag that someones interested in and i have the ability to make more i usually do sell it as its important to keep people happy


cheers


denny

[paddyob]

I understand Denny. But are you ok sending a customer to Wai's instead of selling something to them? I did see you would try to accommodate the sale, but this was not the case for me. Twice. At other shops of course.

Denny you straight shooter. Lol.

I know bulk sells. But I'm willing to buy at the "higher" price for one... That's good for you.

As a retailer you could easily stick something else in to replace it.

Originally Posted by denny@concept

ill see what i can do anyways lol


i guess for every person who doesnt buy a pak theres ten others who do , im sure if they werent selling there paks they wouldnt be doing it , i make on average 5 paks of zoas a week and i do not split them up , im sure theres an angry guss here and there who wants that one item , but theres also the sell it all at once angle which also helps bring down paks overall pricing as opposed to per polyp pricing.



for example heres one of my paks:

as a package i have it posted as $100.00

pak3: $100.00

aussie delightful paly: 6polyps
purple death palys: 2polyps + babies
red people eaters: 4 polyps
armor of god paly: 1polyp
candy apple redds - 1 polyp


as individuals i sell them as:


aussie delightful paly:6 polyps @ $20 per polyp
purple death palys: 2polyps + babies @ $15 per polyp
red people eaters: 4 polyps-@$5 per polyp
armor of god paly: 1polyp @ $15 per polyp
candy apple redds - 1 polyp@$15 per polyp

so in theory or on paper im ripping myself off as singles i could be getting $200 but as a package i offered it for a more reasonable price .

i sell each and every pak , all five, weekly so i dont see a need to break them up unless they werent selling.

i remember the large 12" combo zoa rocks years ago at lfs being 300-400 and littered with several diff types , alot of times i would get mad and say geesh i just want that one but every other week id go in and sure enough it was sold and gone

while im sure theres always one person who hates this , there are prob ten others for that one who do in fact like it.

to each their own i guess

its always been like that though , the nicer stuff will always be on the border line of for sale and not for sale lol its not a new thing its been like it since i started the hobby and other hobbies im in.


now with all that said , if theres a single frag that someones interested in and i have the ability to make more i usually do sell it as its important to keep people happy


cheers


denny

[Magickiwi]

If you don't like the way they are doing business then don't do business. If it impacts them they will change and then you're happy. If it doesn't then it's a reality that you'll have to accept.

Just let it go man.