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Old 01-07-2014, 07:02 PM
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that really doesnt make much sense .

If my system demands

70ml CA
84 ml alk
(Which is the same as before TM balling method when you take into account the concentration adjustment.)

but only 10 ml a day of MG (aka part C)

And this is how it sits for say a few months ..

Then as per the seminar , i am not balanced . The whole point wast to add equal parts C to B , thus balancing the chloride ions etc

Infact RON99 has a very good point . If the consumption in my tank of all trace elements ( all 70 trace in part C) is not equal to the amount of part C dosed then potentially over time those elements will become over concentrated .
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:04 PM
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1) Yes providing you start with a balanced system i.e all parameters in line with their guidelines which is written on the box. You may find you need to slightly vary away from this depending on your own tanks needs. Its a guideline

2) yes correct all 3 parts A B and C make up NSW minus the sodium Chloride.

3) refer to point #1 you need to balance your system first

4) This also comes down to point #1

You balance your system first by manual dosing once balanced you can work out your daily consumption.
If the salt we choose to use is not "balanced" then how do we balance the system while continuing weekly or biweekly water changes
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:11 PM
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as long as your ca ALK and Mg is within range the rest will fall into place.

if still stuck or unsure give Lou a call he has said he will answer any call

413-367-0101

You are not balancing trace elements thats where I think the confusion lies

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Old 01-07-2014, 07:19 PM
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Give tropic marin a call ask to speak to Lou he is expecting your call, he will explain everything to you person to person directly.

You should have joined the seminar.
I'll see if I have time to do that. Can you PM me a phone number? Thanks

edit: never mind, missed the post above...

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Old 01-07-2014, 07:21 PM
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ok may call .

one last thing then.

lets just say that i need to dose no Mg . or 1 ml a day lol

basically i have no need for part C ?

so am i not basically just doing 2-part dosing again ?
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:29 PM
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ok may call .

one last thing then.

lets just say that i need to dose no Mg . or 1 ml a day lol

basically i have no need for part C ?

so am i not basically just doing 2-part dosing again ?
Yap its gonna be just an expensive 2-part.
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Yap its gonna be just an expensive 2-part.
Ok lets not let this thread fall apart with pointless negatives, I kept this open knowing eventually the thread would implode with people trying to disprove what has been already proven.

Part C Mg is designed in a way that you will never not dose it, I am dosing 80ml a day! and my Mg is 1320. It is designed to be proportional. So NO you will not end up with an expensive 2 part as Part C is designed always be required in proportion

You need to also remember the trace elements are in very small quantities. With the Ca and Alk consumption in the tank, these trace elements are depleted through precipitation and biological processes.

Here again is Lous number he is open to calls all the time in office hours eastern time, please call him and use this service.

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Old 01-07-2014, 08:13 PM
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Ok lets not let this thread fall apart with pointless negatives, I kept this open knowing eventually the thread would implode with people trying to disprove what has been already proven.

Part C Mg is designed in a way that you will never not dose it, I am dosing 80ml a day! and my Mg is 1320. It is designed to be proportional. So NO you will not end up with an expensive 2 part as Part C is designed always be required in proportion

You need to also remember the trace elements are in very small quantities. With the Ca and Alk consumption in the tank, these trace elements are depleted through precipitation and biological processes.

Here again is Lous number he is open to calls all the time in office hours eastern time, please call him and use this service.

413-367-0101
He was asking whether it would just be a 2 part if he doesn't have to dose part C. We have had this discussion before Michael
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:16 PM
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Yes it would but then thats an unbalanced system, as said so many times in this thread part C is the most important part. So part C in the system is designed so it will be required so the system stays in balance.
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Yes it would but then thats an unbalanced system, as said so many times in this thread part C is the most important part. So part C in the system is designed so it will be required so the system stays in balance.
Exactly
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