WTF is wrong with this guy! Rob Ford AGAIN!

[SanguinesDream]

The medias' obsession with Rob Ford is the reason I finally left Facebook a week ago and after reading this thread, I have no desire to return.

What a person chooses to do on their personal time is their personal choice. If they act like an @$$, then they have to pay the consequences. But as long as dude did not spend cashola from the public coffers or perform any public duty in an altered state, then it be none of anyones' business.

The papparazzi approach to newcasting is unpalatable particularly when foreign correspondents are risking life and limb to bring real news to the world.

[Treebeard]

Bang on.
Meanwhile, the shiny pony Justin Trudeau admits to smoking pot but gets completely forgiven by the masses and mainstream media. Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to decriminalizing pot, but as it stands now, smoking crack and pot are both inditable, and all politicians should be expected to respect the law and be treated the same if they don't, especially those hoping to become PM.

Originally Posted by SanguinesDream

The medias' obsession with Rob Ford is the reason I finally left Facebook a week ago and after reading this thread, I have no desire to return.

What a person chooses to do on their personal time is their personal choice. If they act like an @$$, then they have to pay the consequences. But as long as dude did not spend cashola from the public coffers or perform any public duty in an altered state, then it be none of anyones' business.

The papparazzi approach to newcasting is unpalatable particularly when foreign correspondents are risking life and limb to bring real news to the world.

[Fesso]

Actually not bang on at all....
Just for starters - under oath Ford's staffers have stated to the Toronto police that were frequently tasked with buying the mayor vodka approximately 10 times per month during work hours because Ford didn't want to be seen at the LCBO. That's tax dollars well spent.

Personal life vs Public life argument eh?
In the private sector that argument would never wash and any CEO would have been history 6 months ago when the allegations were just allegations let alone admitted truths.

[SanguinesDream]

Originally Posted by Fesso

Actually not bang on at all....
Just for starters - under oath Ford's staffers have stated to the Toronto police that were frequently tasked with buying the mayor vodka approximately 10 times per month during work hours because Ford didn't want to be seen at the LCBO. That's tax dollars well spent.

Personal life vs Public life argument eh?
In the private sector that argument would never wash and any CEO would have been history 6 months ago when the allegations were just allegations let alone admitted truths.

Did you miss the "But as long as dude did not spend cashola from the public coffers or perform any public duty in an altered state, then it be none of anyones' business." part?

As for CEO, CFO, CAO, Directors, Board members, et al and allegations???? I spat my gin out on the screen of my corporate phone. Thanks for the laugh, I am still wiping away the tears.

[Fesso]

Originally Posted by SanguinesDream

Did you miss the "But as long as dude did not spend cashola from the public coffers or perform any public duty in an altered state, then it be none of anyones' business." part?

Nope didn't miss that at all, Ford's staffers are payed from public coffers.

So your telling me that a CEO of a multi billion corporation wouldn't take a leave of absence or be forced to resign after admitting to smoking crack (only after denying it and getting caught) and being involved in a police investigation involving murder and extortion that he refuses to comment on? Maybe you're right and he is just waiting for the Golden Parachute he is so entitled to before he moves on and lets us have our city back. Enjoy your gin.

[reefermadness]

Originally Posted by SanguinesDream

Did you miss the "But as long as dude did not spend cashola from the public coffers or perform any public duty in an altered state, then it be none of anyones' business." part?

As for CEO, CFO, CAO, Directors, Board members, et al and allegations???? I spat my gin out on the screen of my corporate phone. Thanks for the laugh, I am still wiping away the tears.

He is right. Any CEO would be forced out. Only problem with being a publically elected mayor apparently is that he can't be forced out.

And as far as the Trudeau admitting to smoking pot. Rob Ford got his pass on smoking pot too because he came out unprovoked and admitted pot use as well.

Crack > worse than pot. People from all walks of life use pot but I can tell you that generally its only people who make poor choices use crack. People who would do things like hire a prostitute, drive under the influence, snort cocaine etc. All things Ford is alleged to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Jy312JCUQ

[SanguinesDream]

Originally Posted by reefermadness

He is right. Any CEO would be forced out.

Evidence please.

And please don't get me wrong, I am NOT defending Ford. All of his illegal behaviours should be proven before a court of law and punished accordingly, that is what "consequences" mean.

But this court of public opinion that is media driven has its' own drivers too, and THAT should be exposed for what it is before being accepted as fact.

[Coralgurl]

Originally Posted by SanguinesDream

Evidence please.

And please don't get me wrong, I am NOT defending Ford. All of his illegal behaviours should be proven before a court of law and punished accordingly, that is what "consequences" mean.

But this court of public opinion that is media driven has its' own drivers too, and THAT should be exposed for what it is before being accepted as fact.

Are you stating that CEO's, employees etc are not forced out if it is deemed they have a problem with substance abuse whether at home or work???? I know for a fact this is true - most employers when confronted with someone who's personal life is interfering with work life will indeed step in. Most will offer the employee, CEO etc the opportunity to get help, some even dictate what that help looks like and can force drug/alcohol testing to substantiate claims and dictate how long said CEO/employee has to adhere to this program. If the employee/CEO makes it the employers problem again, they have every right to terminate. I KNOW as my ex was given a paid leave of absence to voluntarily attend a rehab program. He also signed an agreement that said further incidences were grounds for immediate termination. A few months later, owner of business could smell the booze on him from the night before and he was escorted off the lot, personal items sent later. By the way - he died from his addictions.

Do you not see this guy on TV, you don't even have to listen to the reporters - just watch him. Nothing he is doing is normal behavior, the guy has taken a reality break regardless of the allegations he's facing and needs to step away. OH YA, do you not think these things happen??? I have a family member who was hospitalized for 2 months last year after all the drugs and alcohol. Docs don't know if the issues came before the abuse or were a result of. Almost 2 years later and he's still not stable.

Do you have any experience with these types of issues?????? Its completely clear this guy has lost it. And for reference purposes - CHARLIE SHEEN. Exact same behavior. Rob Ford has lied repeatedly to everyone about whether he uses, until confronted with a video, oh, then let's fess up. He's lied about everything, typical of an addict and you think the staffers are making these allegations for no reason????? Typical response of someone in denial, its everyone else's issue, no way this is happening. Pretty sure if it smells like s@#$, looks like s*&^, then it probably is S#*&.

Why does this need to go to court??? The city has to prove their mayor is a crack smoking, driving drunk, whore mongerer to actually lose his job(which is a consequence btw)??? ARE YOU SERIOUS???? Cool, we'll all sit back and watch as he continues to embarrass the rest of the country with his antics!! Awesomeness!!!!

[SanguinesDream]

Originally Posted by Treebeard

Meanwhile, the shiny pony Justin Trudeau

How to put this tactfully.....if you are calling JT "the shiny pony" you may want to turn of the Sun "News" Network and stop listening to anything Ezra Levant tries to sell you. There was a reason that the Sun didn't achieve mandatory carriage or cannot sustain itself in the free market it so vehemently purports to defend.

[Treebeard]

Ezra Levant has an opinion, you have yours. The truth is somewhere in between. If you rely on CBC or CTV as your sole information source you are only getting one side.

And speaking of surviving in the free market, I wonder how long the CBC would last without the billion or so taxpayer dollars we generously give them every year? I don't watch Sun News or CBC by the way.

Originally Posted by SanguinesDream

How to put this tactfully.....if you are calling JT "the shiny pony" you may want to turn of the Sun "News" Network and stop listening to anything Ezra Levant tries to sell you. There was a reason that the Sun didn't achieve mandatory carriage or cannot sustain itself in the free market it so vehemently purports to defend.