Ok, let's hear it!

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

This is a pretty fast moving thread.... But please don't get mad at me...LOL. I did not say or suggest that you or any non-LED users were misleading. Instead I said you were being misled,... big difference.

And in your case specifically, you are probably a good example of this. You have no direct experience with LED, yet you seem to be taking the side against LEDs and choose who you want to quote or back up your argument. If you want to talk about cost savings, why don't you go back and read my earlier post in this thread where I gave some real data on my usage and savings.

There's nothing to be mad over here. There's are all healthy arguments and thats why the forum is for.

I am not taking side again't LED, I am being against the cost savings

Aha, found the numbers. Sorry I didn't notice that post Can you please let me know how many T5s were you running (including the watt and the hours of running) and how many radions (which model? that will factor in the cost) you are running over the two tanks? I will do a calculation and see how things look. Your numbers are something that I needed. Thanks for posting those btw

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

There's nothing to be mad over here. There's are all healthy arguments and thats why the forum is for.

I am not taking side again't LED, I am being against the cost savings

Aha, found the numbers. Sorry I didn't notice that post Can you please let me know how many T5s were you running (including the watt and the hours of running) and how many radions (which model? that will factor in the cost) you are running over the two tanks? I will do a calculation and see how things look. Your numbers are something that I needed. Thanks for posting those btw

Well, that's good (liking healthy arguments). Candor without malice, is what we used to say in the corporate world where I worked.

We used to live and die by all the numbers, and stretched and shrunk them every quarter (with the help of our creative accountants) to make our owners and shareholders happy. But I'm retired now, and have to say I hate numbers now, and do my best not to overly manage my personal finance, including how much I spend on reefing, etc. I just know it is a lot, and anything I can do to cut it back a bit (without compromising the quality and pleasure of my hobby experience) is good. So, no, I am not going to get out the meters and check my exact power usage, or calculate all my equipment cost and depreciation, etc. That would take much of the fun out of this hobby...

All I can tell you, is that my canopy (6 foot tank) was totally jammed with T5s before. They were very hot, and I know used a lot of power, incl the chiller and all the bulb costs. My LEDs on the other hand are very cool (in comparison to the T5s), and are basically maintenance free. Any adjustments are made with my computer.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

Well, that's good (liking healthy arguments). Candor without malice, is what we used to say in the corporate world where I worked.

We used to live and die by all the numbers, and stretched and shrunk them every quarter (with the help of our creative accountants) to make our owners and shareholders happy. But I'm retired now, and have to say I hate numbers now, and do my best not to overly manage my personal finance, including how much I spend on reefing, etc. I just know it is a lot, and anything I can do to cut it back a bit (without compromising the quality and pleasure of my hobby experience) is good. So, no, I am not going to get out the meters and check my exact power usage, or calculate all my equipment cost and depreciation, etc. That would take much of the fun out of this hobby...

All I can tell you, is that my canopy (6 foot tank) was totally jammed with T5s before. They were very hot, and I know used a lot of power, incl the chiller and all the bulb costs. My LEDs on the other hand are very cool (in comparison to the T5s), and are basically maintenance free. Any adjustments are made with my computer.

No no no you don't to take out the meters. Just the numbers of T5s, the watt of heaters T5s and the radion gen and how many. I sent you a PM for convenience. Just the name plate numbers

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

Any adjustments are made with my computer.

Oh, I miss this too Although once adjusted, they were set and forget. Although I can set the timers via computer still. I can turn my T5 off. Then on. Then off again. I can actually do this with my phone. But I haven't been that bored yet -lol

[Reef Pilot]

Like I said in my earlier post, I probably shouldn't have waded into this discussion....LOL. I don't have time for another "What is a corporation" debate.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

Like I said in my earlier post, I probably shouldn't have waded into this discussion....LOL. I don't have time for another "What is a corporation" debate.

I had to unsubscribe from that thread.

[Doug]

[lastlight]

I'm finding the colours I'm getting with my mitras to be just as good if not better (finally) than with my radiums. tank seems to be on an upward swing which I believe has nothing to do with the lights.

one thing that still stand out to me is how much better halides look over tanks during daylight hours. my LEDs just don't look bright enough to make the tank pop when it's light in the room. once evening rolls around my tank looks so much better in a dark livingroom.

[Aqua-Digital]

Originally Posted by lastlight

one thing that still stand out to me is how much better halides look over tanks during daylight hours. my LEDs just don't look bright enough to make the tank pop when it's light in the room. once evening rolls around my tank looks so much better in a dark livingroom.

Under energy saving option switch the lamp to high output mode and 100% max power, then go to composer and press 100% full spectrum and 100% brightness

Place supplied glasses over eyes before pressing save