Couple shots running mh/t5 vs Diy led

[Ryan-b]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Nope, GHL isn't that type of company. 2+ years in development means very little to be desired. I think you meant ecotech with had 3 versions out within a year and they still haven't hit the nail square yet.

You are running Mitras right?

I wasn't taking a shot at GHL, all I was saying that in 6 months there will be a new product that is the must have/envy of the town kinda thing. Whether it be ecotech/ghl/AI or whom ever. I just personally think that LEDs have a long way to go yet.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Ryan-b

You are running Mitras right?

I wasn't taking a shot at GHL, all I was saying that in 6 months there will be a new product that is the must have/envy of the town kinda thing. Whether it be ecotech/ghl/AI or whom ever. I just personally think that LEDs have a long way to go yet.

Yes I do and perhaps but ultimately waiting around for technology to advance is like going backwards. Everything advances and better things always come out, if you wait for better things then you'll always be waiting.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Yes I do and perhaps but ultimately waiting around for technology to advance is like going backwards. Everything advances and better things always come out, if you wait for better things then you'll always be waiting.

Can't agree more But overall, mitras are a very very stable fixture as far as the specs go. Radios seems to change quit noticeably among their fixture upgrades and so as other brands but with mitras, there's so little to improve, its the near perfect fixture with today's technology and hence the four figure price point

[Ryan-b]

I'm not saying that there won't always be something new and exciting. I'm saying I'm not going to drop $1500-3000 every 6 months on lighting.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Ryan-b

I'm not saying that there won't always be something new and exciting. I'm saying I'm not going to drop $1500-3000 every 6 months on lighting.

You will have to if you get radions...but not with mitras Although I have a reputation of being an "LED-hated" (which I am not) but I really like mitras (just not the price lol)

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Ryan-b

I'm not saying that there won't always be something new and exciting. I'm saying I'm not going to drop $1500-3000 every 6 months on lighting.

I'm not sure anybody would and I don't understand your point. You know these fixtures don't expire right? You don't have to buy a new one every time one comes out.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by sphelps

I'm not sure anybody would and I don't understand your point. You know these fixtures don't expire right? You don't have to buy a new one every time one comes out.

He is just pointing out the temptation

[Ryan-b]

My point is 1.5 years ago my DIY fixture was pretty decent. Today it still does the job, but is clearly lacking. They have come out with all sorts of LED colors/spectrums since.

I don't have the funds to be buying new **** every 6 months to a year because the technology has advanced, and what seemed good today, turns out to be lacking vital spectrums/colors/the list goes on, tomorrow. Its quite obvious,what was good 6-12 months ago have/has "flaws". So until the technology has stabalized I will hold off. I will stick to something that has been around longer then 4-5 years, while they smooth out the wrinkles.

Yes I realize fixtures don't expire, thanks for the heads up though. When said fixture turns out to be a dud in 6 months refer to the above paragraph.

You seem to have taken it personally when I asked about the Mitra.
I'm not sure why as I would love to have a couple over my tank, as you stated they have done there due diligence, and made probably the best unit to date.

[sphelps]

I'm not talking anything personally but your logic puzzles me and I don't understand it. For example:

1. I think your fixture looked the same 1.5 years ago than it does today. Same deal with the halides, they would have looked the same 1.5 years ago as well. So comparably speaking there is no difference from now and then so if you liked the LED fixture back then what changed?
2. The concept of boycotting new technology based on the advancement of technology makes no sense. Kind of like saying don't buy a new car cause a new one will come out next year and ultimately be better...
3. And finally you seem to have given up on you DIY led project prematurely. I kind of think one the advantages of DIY fixtures is the ability to grow with it. Rather than given up on it due to the lack of spectrum perhaps a better and cheaper solution would have been to simply add what you were missing. Like I mentioned earlier.

My comments were originally based on having a DIY fixture myself and starting off with the basics and adding to it until I was satisfied. I didn't suggest you buy a Mitra, didn't even mention it until it was brought up.