Golden Retriever

[marie]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

Not sure where the previous posters are getting there info from, but



Steve

..........experience, 35 yrs of grooming them and 30 yrs of training.
All the so called top ten smart breeds are based on how easy the breed is to train and just because a breed is eager to please humans doesn't necessarily make it intelligent. It's a sad fact that a lot of truely intelligent dogs end up being put down because of "problem" behaviour

[axe_man16]

Reguardless of what people think of the breed I like them and I am still on my search for a breeder.

[marie]

Originally Posted by axe_man16

Reguardless of what people think of the breed I like them and I am still on my search for a breeder.

They are a wonderful dog and I would recommend them to anyone with a young and active family.......I was just defending my opinion

[axe_man16]

No problem at all, i do always appreciate peoples opinions, and we are a fairly active couple and young couple. I wouldnt mind a running partner either.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by marie

..........experience, 35 yrs of grooming them and 30 yrs of training.
All the so called top ten smart breeds are based on how easy the breed is to train and just because a breed is eager to please humans doesn't necessarily make it intelligent. It's a sad fact that a lot of truely intelligent dogs end up being put down because of "problem" behaviour

I wasn't going by that list, was using the actual intelligence list that has brad's dog right up in the top two. it goes by actual intelligence not eager to please. mine has figured out how to do some things that just make me scratch my head and it pleased no one but the dog...... I'll see if I can find it again it was three years ago when I was looking into it, but they talk about train-ability and intelligence.

They do get a bum rap and people call them dumb because they tend to be stubborn and free willed., and I have found if you use treats to train, then don't expect them to do it again if you don't have a treat

Steve

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

I wasn't going by that list, was using the actual intelligence list that has brad's dog right up in the top two.

Steve

Sorry, that list does specify train-ability But I do agree, the ones I've seen are fairly smart, working in the agility ring. They can put things together fairly well. Not like Border Collies, mind you, but still pretty sharp. I think they're great dogs for families with kids. I wouldn't call them dumb, just happy. If you want dumb, get an Aussie

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

I wouldn't call them dumb, just happy. If you want dumb, get an Aussie

oh I call him dumb all the time, expecialy at 10:30 at night when I am in my robe trying to go to bed and the dumbA$$ won't come in because I don't have a treat in my hand. He thinks its funny just to sit there and play dumb.

Steve

[intarsiabox]

I've seen lots of pure breds in Edmonton that have registered parents but the owners didn't register the puppies for very reasonable prices. My dog is from a husky breeder that happened to be trying to sell their acreage at the time so they were selling the puppies unregistered for a third of their usual price. Some people just do it because they love puppies and don't register any of them even though they could and get more money. Just need to spend some time and keep an eye out.

[Aquattro]

http://www.whitephantomkennels.com/r...t-not-papered/

just some info..

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

http://www.whitephantomkennels.com/r...t-not-papered/

just some info..

Makes a good point about disease/defect tests. Always ask for proof of the testing and first shots regardless of breeder, hobbiest, registered or unregistered. I took the rest with a grain of salt after I read their article on how crossbreeds are bad and imply that most people who doesn't register their dogs or sell crossbreeds are out to scam you and don't care for their animals.