Cannot get rid of cyano!

[Nate]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

no its that i tried all the obvious things and was looking for the one person that knows something that 99% of us dont know

you didn't try ROUTINE water changes... Tried a couple for the first time in 14 months...

[Cal_stir]

Originally Posted by Nate

you didn't try ROUTINE water changes... Tried a couple for the first time in 14 months...

I do ROUTINE water changes, so why didn't it fix my cyano problem?

[Proteus]

Routine water changes never fixed mine but it did import better quality water while I fixed the problems

[Cal_stir]

Exactly, I'm just trying to make a point, I do routine WC, vacuum, socks, maint, don't overfeed, maintain good water params, but sometimes when cyano gets the chance to rear its ugly head, the best maintenance in the world can't correct it.
I battled it for over a month, then I chemicleaned it and now it's gone, I'm back to my regular routine(that worked for years) and no sign of cyano, tank is happy and I'm happy.
So to say that Marcos problem is because he doesn't do routine water changes is a farce, and to say that doing routine wc will clear it up in a few weeks is a greater farce.

[Nate]

Originally Posted by Cal_stir

Exactly, I'm just trying to make a point, I do routine WC, vacuum, socks, maint, don't overfeed, maintain good water params, but sometimes when cyano gets the chance to rear its ugly head, the best maintenance in the world can't correct it.
I battled it for over a month, then I chemicleaned it and now it's gone, I'm back to my regular routine(that worked for years) and no sign of cyano, tank is happy and I'm happy.
So to say that Marcos problem is because he doesn't do routine water changes is a farce, and to say that doing routine wc will clear it up in a few weeks is a greater farce.

Ok Im wrong nuke it with the chemiclean!

You did 4 20 % water changes after you did the chemiclean to get your skimmer back in order Cal. Willing to bet that helped whatever parameter was out when you had it. Maybe prevented it from coming back? No?

[MarkoD]

Why do you think a large enough refugium with lots of macro algae can't keep perameters in check?

this is my cheato ball a week after harvesting it

[Nate]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Why do you think a large enough refugium with lots of macro algae can't keep perameters in check?

this is my cheato ball a week after harvesting it

LOL this is not a battle of whos balls are bigger marko. YEs that cheato will assist with some degree of nutrient export. No I dont think you can run a tank without doing water changes on a fairly regular basis. Yes, I challenge you to prove me wrong. Yes, I assume you will be on here in a couple more months with another problem asking everyone " whats wrong with my..." and then arguing the fact that it has nothing to do with water changes.

Once again, I hope everything works out for you.

I could show you the piddly little ball of cheato in my 500 gallon, but thats exactly it, its a piddly little ball, as I do WATER CHANGES to maintain low levels of nitrates!

[Cal_stir]

Originally Posted by Nate

Ok Im wrong nuke it with the chemiclean!

You did 4 20 % water changes after you did the chemiclean to get your skimmer back in order Cal. Willing to bet that helped whatever parameter was out when you had it. Maybe prevented it from coming back? No?

Dude, your not reading the thread, I did daily 10% water changes for a month while I was battling the cyano, it didn't help, I did 4 20% water changes after the chemiclean to get my skimmer to not overflow.

[Nate]

Originally Posted by Cal_stir

Dude, your not reading the thread, I did daily 10% water changes for a month while I was battling the cyano, it didn't help, I did 4 20% water changes after the chemiclean to get my skimmer to not overflow.

I thought I was clear in my last post guess not...

You won with chemiclean yes...

But did 80 gallons of water changes to get your skimmer to calm down yes...

Do you think that the fact that the cyano did not come back, after removing the chemiclean was because maybe you adjusted your water chemistry with that big of a water change?

[Nate]

Originally Posted by Cal_stir

I do ROUTINE water changes, so why didn't it fix my cyano problem?

I dont know much about your system... Wish I could help you. You said it happened after "acans dies from a disease?" I am glad you keep to regular water changes, and wish I could help you further. but with so little information, you are asking a question that I could not possibly give you an answer to. You have set me up to fail with this question. Its like me asking you why is my Duck Toller barking right now. Could be a bird, could be the cat, could be that I'm paying attention to a thread that I've wasted too much time on today...

Furthermore, I believe you are not even currently battling cyano?

Again, I would like to go on record as not being against the chemiclean. I have used it as well. In fact I bet that I've purchased more than anyone else on the board (humorous). I just always find that the guys that are very strongly "anti water change" are often having tank crashes or issues that would likely have been solved with routine water changes.

I wish marko the best of luck in the future and who knows, perhaps he can develop a method of no-work reefkeeping that can put me out of a job?