Whats wrong with my fish ??

[fishytime]

Originally Posted by FWC

The Lyretails suprised me, I only found out that they are supposed to be picky fish a few days ago. The male is doing perfect ,feeding on NLS and frozen ,and the female takes frozen ,so I guess I lucked out.

getting them to eat is actually the easy part of the equation......... they dont have a stomach like most fish....they do best with several small feedings a day, which for most people either isnt physically possible or causes their tanks nutrient issues......the other part is, they have a very complex social hierarchy..... the males keep harems of females so in a small tank with only one female to chase, chances are your female will be stressed.....

[janalta]

It looks to me like your filefish has a bacterial infection....presumably the same one your dead female brought in.
I assume you don't have an isolation/QT tank for him?

Your tank is still cycling and besides all of the imbalances in ammonia, nitrates, phosphates, etc....there just aren't enough beneficial bacteria and fauna in your tank yet to sustain the critters you've got in there.

I wouldn't do a full 50% water change right now...your fish are too stressed already. Try 25% tomorrow, then give it some time before you change more...testing every day.
PH is the least of your worries right now...I wouldn't worry about doing anything about that until you get your tank stabilized.

[FWC]

Originally Posted by janalta

It looks to me like your filefish has a bacterial infection....presumably the same one your dead female brought in.
I assume you don't have an isolation/QT tank for him?

Your tank is still cycling and besides all of the imbalances in ammonia, nitrates, phosphates, etc....there just aren't enough beneficial bacteria and fauna in your tank yet to sustain the critters you've got in there.

I wouldn't do a full 50% water change right now...your fish are too stressed already. Try 25% tomorrow, then give it some time before you change more...testing every day.
PH is the least of your worries right now...I wouldn't worry about doing anything about that until you get your tank stabilized.

I dont have a Q/T at the time ,however if its critical I could whip one up.

Much water testing is in order. A water change as well. How large of one ,I am not sure ,given contradicting information.

[daniella3d]

first of all to neutralize ammonia which is burning your fish gills and mucus, you could add some Seachem Prime until the bacterias population resume to a decent level.

Good thing your PH is not that high because the higher the PH and the more toxic ammonia is.

Originally Posted by FWC

I dont have a Q/T at the time ,however if its critical I could whip one up.

Much water testing is in order. A water change as well. How large of one ,I am not sure ,given contradicting information.

[janalta]

Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by janalta

Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly

+1 agreed completely

[Cade]

Originally Posted by janalta

Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly

+2 Good Luck with everything.

[FWC]

Originally Posted by janalta

I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water.

When reef wars said a large water change ,I was thinking along the lines of a 50% water change


Other then that ,shall do


Also I have some Kanaplex ,will that be alright for the anti-bacterial ??

[janalta]

Yes...I believe kanaplex is reef safe....but make sure first !
I know it is safe for marine tanks...but you'll have to double check on it's effects on corals and inverts.