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03-10-2012, 05:34 PM
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The state of the zoas looks like they have the same issue. If you simply throw a lot of livestock into a brand new tank...you're going to have problems. This tank has no visable life in the sand bed yet, no growth on any of the rock or equipment.....it looks very new and barren. From the sounds of it nothing was dipped or quarantined either. 
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03-10-2012, 06:55 PM
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The tank is younger ,however its old enough
 The water tested fine when it was tested a few days ago ,I'll test it again when I get home from work. I think its a parasite of some sort ,as this morning and last night the wrasse was going to town cleaning everyone ,and this morning all the fish were out swimming around ,as opposed to yesterday ,when everyone was hiding. Also everything does indeed look very clean ,I'm pretty anal about it looking clean. I dont let scum grow on my glass ,tubing or powerheads.
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03-10-2012, 07:38 PM
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By clean...I wasn't talking about your glass.
Rock and sand that have time to cycle, cure, age and grow the beneficial bacteria you need for a healthy tank are not white and clean. A healthy sand bed has color, it has bacteria and fauna in it...you will be able to see tunnels and tracks under the water line from the critters that are cleaning up the detrius. Rock will be aged...it will have good algae growth....coralline in shades of pink, green, red and purple. These are the backbone to a healthy tank with natural filtration....and your tank has no signs of the above . Throwing 6 or 7 fish into an immature tank is a recipe for disaster. I went 3 months with no fish...then added one damsel....several months later I added a clown. My tank was 6 months old before adding a third. Now that my tank is more mature....has recovered from a recent move, has plenty of growth on the rocks and a healthy, live sand bed....I will go out and get all of the fish I've wanted in it. Your corals and inverts are the best gauge to the health of your tank....they will tell you long before your fish that something isn't right....and your corals and inverts don't look good at all....they're not happy campers. Testing your water won't tell you what you've introduced into your tank....and a cleaner fish won't cure anything. If it's not parasitic, it's bacterial or fungal...but it is obviously not thriving right now. BTW - cleaner shrimp and wrasses will clean anything and everything you put in your tank...it isn't an indication that there is necessarily a parasite Last edited by janalta; 03-10-2012 at 07:40 PM.
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03-11-2012, 01:37 AM
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O.k ,yes ,my tank is young and such.
However that is not the issue. I did not post here to be heckled about my tank and its stock and maturity. So I maintain my original question ,what is wrong with my fish and how do I fix it ??
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03-11-2012, 04:32 AM
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Heckled? Really?
 People can't help you without details. Three people asked you how long your tank has been up and running....you don't find it relevant...it is. There are no visable parasites, spots or other signs of disease on your fish, therefore, no one can give you a positive answer as to what is going on. You added a visably ill fish with cloudy eyes to your tank. What was wrong with her and what she died of...again, no one can tell you that without seeing that fish. ( although cloudy eyes can be caused by a bacterial infection ) You were not heckled.....you wanted advice....and were advised that your tank is too new to have that much livestock added...and that is part of your problem...whether you care to admit it or not. It is an issue. Since you do not have a disease or parasite that is visable.....and since you have corals in your tank....dosing with anything could result in losing your corals and inverts. So, it is not advisable to experiment with different treatments just in case. The fish in your photos don't look critically ill....no spots, no white patches, no sores, all are swimming normally. Until you can see something, it's dangerous to start dosing your tank just in case. The fact that they appear itchy could mean something like flukes.....gaping mouths, slowing down, pale...could well be water quality....not just chemically, but airation, flow, temp, filtration, salinity. A parasite would not explain why your corals are also not looking healthy. Last edited by janalta; 03-11-2012 at 04:45 AM. Reason: can't type :O)
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03-11-2012, 04:52 AM
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O.k ,more info.
I just tested the water ,it came back the following. It probably also explains the coral not looking so hot. Nitate = 3 Nitrite = 0.05 Ammonia = 0.7 pH = 7.3 (I believe the low ammonia is why the coral is un-happy) Tank has been up for about 2 months  Also the anthias wasnt ill looking when I added her ,however after a few days eyes ,and then body clouded over and she died. Also something is coming over the filefish. I'll let the pictures do the talking. http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/j...h/DSCF9638.jpg http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/j...h/DSCF9639.jpg http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/j...h/DSCF9640.jpg ETA : Sorry if I seem snappish/over defensive or anything ,it's just one of those things...if that makes sence  Last edited by FWC; 03-11-2012 at 04:58 AM.
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03-11-2012, 05:01 AM
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Is that an orange spot filefish? If so.. I thnk they are very specific on what they eat...
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03-11-2012, 05:17 AM
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 too many added at too soon i believe you maxed out your bio load, there are 6 fish in the picture above and the tank is only 2 mths old.....minus cycling and its alot of fish in a couple short weeks. the tests say so them selves there should be no amonia present in a healthy tank. fish will always go to the cleaner because there is nothing else they can do the cleaner will always accept a free meal. first i would get rid of the amonia by a hefty water change and feed the fish with garlic soaked foods.i wouldnt add anything else to the tank for a few weeks, they really need to mature. the way to a successful tank from scratch is one with a low bio load added over time. good luck 
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03-11-2012, 04:39 AM
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Well, that might just be what's wrong with your fish, or at least part of what's wrong. If the tank is too young and does not have enough bacterias to handle such bioload, you are going to have ammonia in the water and that irritate and burn the gills.
If you don't see any physical sign like white dots or white velvety coat on the fish and they are scratching, it might just be ammonia upsetting them. I don't think anyone has posted this to upset you or criticize you, it was just a good point to verify as it might just be the problem or a big part of it. Quote:
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