Radion vs. AI Sol

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by fishytime

If you have a profilux.......if you dont then you need the profilux $500, you need the ai control module $100(just guessing), you need the vortech control module $285, you need the red/green sim leds$200 and then the AI soll at $400.....for a grand total of 1500 to do what a radion does.....even if you already have the profilux unit itself then thats about $600 worth of add on goodies you will need......


if your a tech junkie then you might find this appealing .....I have my radion programmed to do this.....orange sunrise in the AM (just a lipstick do nothing feature, but it looks cool) ....then the light slowly ramps up in intensity to somewhere between 6700k and 10000k into the middle of the afternoon (really ugly yellow looking grow the bejeebers out of your coral spectrum.... but hey I dont care cuz Im at work)....then I have the spectrum slowly change from 10000k to close to 20000k from the late afternoon to the late evening (for when Im home looking at the tank)....then it goes to 22000k briefly and then dims down to 2% through the night for moonlight effect.......I get the best of all spectrums...... do that with an AI.......if the SOLs where the shizz then why is an upgraded AI unit comparable to the radion in the works???......lets not forget about the wireless connectivity between the units, wireless communication with the vortech pumps, soon to be Mac compatible, the ability to program the unit from your PC with a nice big screen and spectral graphs, soon to be wireless programing from your PC.....I could go on but.........

Its kinda like skimmers......you can get by quite nicely with a vertex or reef octopus, but what you really want is the Bubble King

OP has a Profilux hence my comment, for AI connection you just need an inexpensive cable not module. The other things are just options but with the AI starting at half the price makes buying such things easier and there purpose goes far beyond just matching a Radion.

And btw the Radion is not the BK of LEDs, it's the vortech of LEDs with comparable models like Tunze with what's better only coming down to personal preference. BKs are timeless, Radions will be obsolete in less than a year.

[unclesalty]

Originally Posted by sphelps

OP has a Profilux hence my comment, for AI connection you just need an inexpensive cable not module. The other things are just options but with the AI starting at half the price makes buying such things easier and there purpose goes far beyond just matching a Radion.

And btw the Radion is not the BK of LEDs, it's the vortech of LEDs with comparable models like Tunze with what's better only coming down to personal preference. BKs are timeless, Radions will be obsolete in less than a year.

My guess is the AI Vegas will soon be the best fixture out there very soon!

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by unclesalty

My guess is the AI Vegas will soon be the best fixture out there very soon!

Perhaps, problem is with these damn LEDs is the next fixture is always around the corner and likely the next best thing. The problem I have with the Vega is that is looks to make the sol obsolete, not likely to see much more for upgrade kits.

[fishytime]

Originally Posted by sphelps

OP has a Profilux hence my comment, for AI connection you just need an inexpensive cable not module. The other things are just options but with the AI starting at half the price makes buying such things easier and there purpose goes far beyond just matching a Radion.

as I said, its still 500 bones worth of add -ons you would need on top of the 400 bones for the AI.....radions are 825 smackers...... and how does a cable, vortech module and sim led go far beyond what a radion can do?...

speaking of cables....did I mention the wireless aspect of the radions?.....

Originally Posted by sphelps

Radions will be obsolete in less than a year.

by that rational AIs are already obsolete.....not to worry, almost everything on the radions is modular and upgradeable to the latest and greatest

[unclesalty]

When it comes right down to it the new AI Vegas will be obsolete in a year also and Ecotech will be working on there next fixture soon if they are not already. LED lights are much like every electronics product as they are almost obsolete before they even hit the market!

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by fishytime

as I said, its still 500 bones worth of add -ons you would need on top of the 400 bones for the AI.....radions are 825 smackers...... and how does a cable, vortech module and sim led go far beyond what a radion can do?...

speaking of cables....did I mention the wireless aspect of the radions?.....




by that rational AIs are already obsolete.....not to worry, almost everything on the radions is modular and upgradeable to the latest and greatest

Far beyond as in other reasons, vortech module allows everything to work seamlessly through one controller that has web access and eliminates the need for the individual controllers. So the reason for the vortech module is more than just integration with the light fixture. Also the OP has a 90 gallon so more than one fixture will be needed so even with the extra options still cheaper. And they're options, as in the buyer has the choice whether to add them or not, options are good.

As for the Radions being upgradeable, lets wait until they actually release a kit, more likley they'll just release a new fixture with 6 channels including some UV.

[unclesalty]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Far beyond as in other reasons, vortech module allows everything to work seamlessly through one controller that has web access and eliminates the need for the individual controllers. So the reason for the vortech module is more than just integration with the light fixture. Also the OP has a 90 gallon so more than one fixture will be needed so even with the extra options still cheaper.

As for the Radions being upgradeable, lets wait until they actually release a kit, more likley they'll just release a new fixture with 6 channels including some UV.

Thats exactly what AI is doing and I bet Ecotech does the same. It puts alot more money in their pockets that way.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by unclesalty

Thats exactly what AI is doing and I bet Ecotech does the same. It puts alot more money in their pockets that way.

Totally, the upgrade feature seems more like a marketing thing. In retro spec unless you can upgrade more than just the LEDs so that your old fixture matches new fixtures there is little point.

[unclesalty]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Totally, the upgrade feature seems more like a marketing thing. In retro spec unless you can upgrade more than just the LEDs so that your old fixture matches new fixtures there is little point.

Vertex seems to be the exception as they just seem to be making pads to be added to the current fixture. Color led pads and now a UV pad

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by unclesalty

Vertex seems to be the exception as they just seem to be making pads to be added to the current fixture. Color led pads and now a UV pad

Yeah I like the vertex better than both to be honest cause it's a fixture, the module stuff to me doesn't come close to looks when you need more than one. I also like the Reeftechs but this threads about sols and Radions. I didn't know about the UV pad though, that's cool.