Thinking of setting up a FOWOLR

burgerchow · #1 01-08-2012, 05:25 PM

no problem with fish only tank. We been doing them for decades before the berlin method came about. Just make sure you got a really strong skimmer, good wet/dry filter ( diy in a big sump) and you're set to go.
Actually, fish only tank is really fun. Everytime you go to the lhs and see a cool looking fish you want, no worries about if it's reef safe. Just buy what you see. Would also recommend a large uv sterilizer, ( at least 25 watts)

intarsiabox · #2 01-08-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by burgerchow

Everytime you go to the lhs and see a cool looking fish you want, no worries about if it's reef safe. Just buy what you see.

Great advice if you have a lot of cash to burn on dead fish. There are a lot of other reasons to not buy any fish you see other than being reef compatible. Do the research before buying any fish! Compatability, special diet, etc.

naesco · #3 01-09-2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by intarsiabox

Great advice if you have a lot of cash to burn on dead fish. There are a lot of other reasons to not buy any fish you see other than being reef compatible. Do the research before buying any fish! Compatability, special diet, etc.

Great advice from you. We have an obligation as reefers to provide the optimum of care for all the critters we remove from the ocean

burgerchow · #4 01-09-2012, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by intarsiabox

Great advice if you have a lot of cash to burn on dead fish. There are a lot of other reasons to not buy any fish you see other than being reef compatible. Do the research before buying any fish! Compatability, special diet, etc.

Yo, what I mean is that I'm assuming the op is savvy with fish husbandry, as he already has a large reef tank, and would know about asking about fish diets and special needs. What I mean is that if he saw a nice queen angel or even a goldflake angel, maybe a clown trigger, he could get them without worrying about whether they would eat his corals or invertebrates.
How many times have you been in a fish store and saw the most beautiful fishes, but regrettably have to pass because they weren't reef safe?
As for hiding places, the slate slabs make beautiful caves and crevices for hiding.

If you don't think I know my fish, I've been in the hobby for 35 years. Reef for 20 years.

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #5 01-09-2012, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by burgerchow

Yo, what I mean is that I'm assuming the op is savvy with fish husbandry, as he already has a large reef tank, and would know about asking about fish diets and special needs. What I mean is that if he saw a nice queen angel or even a goldflake angel, maybe a clown trigger, he could get them without worrying about whether they would eat his corals or invertebrates.
How many times have you been in a fish store and saw the most beautiful fishes, but regrettably have to pass because they weren't reef safe?
As for hiding places, the slate slabs make beautiful caves and crevices for hiding.

If you don't think I know my fish, I've been in the hobby for 35 years. Reef for 20 years.

Good point. There is an absolutely gorgeous parrotfish at King Ed's that selling for a good price but I can't bring it home because I don't have a big fish only tank for it.

burgerchow · #6 01-09-2012, 03:56 AM

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Good point. There is an absolutely gorgeous parrotfish at King Ed's that selling for a good price but I can't bring it home because I don't have a big fish only tank for it.

I know what u mean, I actually bought a gorgeous one at j&l the other day, but had to return it cause I bumped into Jason darr who was shutting down his big reef, and bought about 30 corals from him. Would have been an expensive dinner for the parrotfish. Lol
Seahorse, which tanks u still running? How's that eheim pro filter work out that I gave you?

paddyob · #7 01-17-2012, 09:44 PM

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Good point. There is an absolutely gorgeous parrotfish at King Ed's that selling for a good price but I can't bring it home because I don't have a big fish only tank for it.

Having a big tank is only one issue with parrots. The specialized diet is a bigger issue.

intarsiabox · #8 01-09-2012, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by burgerchow

Yo, what I mean is that I'm assuming the op is savvy with fish husbandry, as he already has a large reef tank, and would know about asking about fish diets and special needs. What I mean is that if he saw a nice queen angel or even a goldflake angel, maybe a clown trigger, he could get them without worrying about whether they would eat his corals or invertebrates.
How many times have you been in a fish store and saw the most beautiful fishes, but regrettably have to pass because they weren't reef safe?
As for hiding places, the slate slabs make beautiful caves and crevices for hiding.

If you don't think I know my fish, I've been in the hobby for 35 years. Reef for 20 years.

I'm sure the OP knows this but a lot of people new to salt water also read these posts and may take things very literally. I forget that anyone could be reading what I write as well and am sure I've probably inadvertently posted some bad advice if the context was unknown.

paddyob · #9 01-17-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by burgerchow

Yo, what I mean is that I'm assuming the op is savvy with fish husbandry, as he already has a large reef tank, and would know about asking about fish diets and special needs. What I mean is that if he saw a nice queen angel or even a goldflake angel, maybe a clown trigger, he could get them without worrying about whether they would eat his corals or invertebrates.
How many times have you been in a fish store and saw the most beautiful fishes, but regrettably have to pass because they weren't reef safe?
As for hiding places, the slate slabs make beautiful caves and crevices for hiding.

If you don't think I know my fish, I've been in the hobby for 35 years. Reef for 20 years.

Just have to say.... being in the hobby a long time does not mean you know it all.

At least hoping that is not what your are saying. Always something to learn. I am sure you have lots to offer... but most of us do not know who you are... and some comments in a forum can be quite amateurish... if you know what I mean. Amateurish meaning it seems like something a person new to the hobby might say.

Sorry to the op... but it drives me nuts when people talk in years of experience.

burgerchow · #10 01-18-2012, 05:18 AM

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Just have to say.... being in the hobby a long time does not mean you know it all.

At least hoping that is not what your are saying. Always something to learn. I am sure you have lots to offer... but most of us do not know who you are... and some comments in a forum can be quite amateurish... if you know what I mean. Amateurish meaning it seems like something a person new to the hobby might say.

Sorry to the op... but it drives me nuts when people talk in years of experience.

Just because I rarely post, you wanna call me amateur? I don't spend my whole life trolling canreef. Lots of people around Vancouver know me. Ask seahorse or naesco. I never said I was an expert, heck, with all the new technology, it's hard to keep up. The original poster wanted to do a fish only tank without live rock and all I'm saying is that it can be done quite easily and NO, you don't have to have live rock to keep fish.