Copperband Swimming Upside Down?!?

NastayNatron · #1 11-12-2011, 06:46 AM

No I don't notice any swelling. Like I said he has Lymph. He is in my 30g quarantine which he could be bored of. . He has been there for 12 days now. Would you guys leave him in the quarantine with the leopard and diamond head or would you move him into the display? I haven't noticed any ich or anything else other than the Lymph. If I wait out the Lymph and keep all fish in quarantine until it is completely gone it could be a long time. As far as I know it can take upwards of 4 weeks for the lymph to fade. Im not sure if this is taking a chance leaving a Copperband thats acting "weird" - possibly due to bordem as he is very active and a great eater, and a leapord wrasse that is doing great, in quarantine for 4-6 weeks.

What would you do? Should I keep truckin and leave them all in quarantine and wait out the lymph or should I put them into the display? Im deffinitly leaning towards leaving them in quarantine.

daniella3d · #2 11-12-2011, 12:31 PM

I would leave him in quarantine because if you end up needing to treat him it will be much easier to do so in the quarantine. Plus you don't know if he does not have something else after only 2 weeks.

Do you have any liverock in there? if not, then maybe you can put a few pieces so that he has something to examin. MIne like to pick on the liverock during the day.

If he is eating well I would not worry and I would leave him in the quarantine for another 2 weeks and observe.

Do you have a strong light? mine absolutely hate strong light and do all sort of gooffy thing to try to hide itself from the light. Maybe using a dimmer light may help him. Mine is most active under the actinic or low light.

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What would you do? Should I keep truckin and leave them all in quarantine and wait out the lymph or should I put them into the display? Im deffinitly leaning towards leaving them in quarantine.

paddyob · #3 11-12-2011, 02:30 PM

Agree. Leave in QT.

You do not want to chance something getting in your display.

Sometimes fish like CBB do great then die without any reason. At least a reason the standard hobbiest would never figure out.

This is a fish I love, but would never waste money on it. I love hearing about long term captivity. A Year is not long when you consider many marine fish live years. When I say years, my good friend has my old clowns. 5 years old in captivity. I know if another who has clowns over 15. So one year is not success.

Sorry for anyone who feels it is. Success is long term survival.

I'm an advocate for this fish staying in the ocean.

daniella3d · #4 11-12-2011, 04:32 PM

yeah...right...but lets say that a year is a good start

and a good guess that the fish was not poisoned by cyanide.

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Agree. Leave in QT.
Sorry for anyone who feels it is. Success is long term survival.

I'm an advocate for this fish staying in the ocean.

paddyob · #5 11-12-2011, 04:51 PM

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yeah...right...but lets say that a year is a good start

and a good guess that the fish was not poisoned by cyanide.

Huh?

A year is a good start. But it's not great.

Some people, again, have great luck. Most do not.

NastayNatron · #6 11-12-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by daniella3d

I would leave him in quarantine because if you end up needing to treat him it will be much easier to do so in the quarantine. Plus you don't know if he does not have something else after only 2 weeks.

Do you have any liverock in there? if not, then maybe you can put a few pieces so that he has something to examin. MIne like to pick on the liverock during the day.

If he is eating well I would not worry and I would leave him in the quarantine for another 2 weeks and observe.

Do you have a strong light? mine absolutely hate strong light and do all sort of gooffy thing to try to hide itself from the light. Maybe using a dimmer light may help him. Mine is most active under the actinic or low light.

No there is no liverock in there. I did add sand for the leopard wrasse. I have previously used cupramine in this tank so if I added some rock that would be its new home. But it may be worth it. The light is actually extremely dim. It is a 60 dollar marineland LED but I have a screen over the tank which blocks at least half the light. This makes sense though as when he does his upside down thing he always does it almost behind the power filter which is the only place away from the light. I think I will add a cave of some sort for him maybe this will help.

daniella3d · #7 11-12-2011, 05:59 PM

yes that would be good because the LED may not seem bright to your eye but it might still be very strong as our eyes adjust very easily to bright light and copperband butterfly fish really hate bright light. Just try to give him a place where there is some shade and I am sure it will help.

Without any place to hide, or any shelter, the copperband is stressed. If you can put something like a cave, it would be best or at least shade some part of that tank so there is no light.

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No there is no liverock in there. I did add sand for the leopard wrasse. I have previously used cupramine in this tank so if I added some rock that would be its new home. But it may be worth it. The light is actually extremely dim. It is a 60 dollar marineland LED but I have a screen over the tank which blocks at least half the light. This makes sense though as when he does his upside down thing he always does it almost behind the power filter which is the only place away from the light. I think I will add a cave of some sort for him maybe this will help.

ScubaSteve · #8 11-12-2011, 07:11 PM

Most people have already said it, but they are challenging fish and are probably one that should be left in the ocean. That being said, hes in your care now... So let's do our best to give this guy the best chance possible.

The upside down thing... Can you describe it? If he's struggling to stay upright, you might be out of luck. If he's just doing to the upside down thing for fun he's probably just messing around from being bored in a small tank. I had a long nose butterfly who did this all the time for s***s and giggles. Butterflies have a surprising amount of personality and do do this to entertain themselves.

Now, I actually recommend getting that leopard into the main tank. That's one fish I recommend NOT Qting. Is the leopard eating?

NastayNatron · #9 11-12-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ScubaSteve

Most people have already said it, but they are challenging fish and are probably one that should be left in the ocean. That being said, hes in your care now... So let's do our best to give this guy the best chance possible.

The upside down thing... Can you describe it? If he's struggling to stay upright, you might be out of luck. If he's just doing to the upside down thing for fun he's probably just messing around from being bored in a small tank. I had a long nose butterfly who did this all the time for s***s and giggles. Butterflies have a surprising amount of personality and do do this to entertain themselves.

Now, I actually recommend getting that leopard into the main tank. That's one fish I recommend NOT Qting. Is the leopard eating?

I would say hes not struggling to stay upright but it seems now like he's just messing around. Ill see if I can get a video of it. As for the leopard he eats like a pig and im feeding him 3 times a day. He is doing great. Im not sure if I should maybe just transfer him to the display and leave the copperband in QT for another couple weeks.. . .

daniella3d · #10 11-12-2011, 08:31 PM

If h'es eating well and seem confortable in the QT, why risk putting it in the display tank too soon? I would not do it unless the fish would seem very stressed but it does not seem to be the case here, so why risk?

There is no point doing a quarantine if it's not done long enough.

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I would say hes not struggling to stay upright but it seems now like he's just messing around. Ill see if I can get a video of it. As for the leopard he eats like a pig and im feeding him 3 times a day. He is doing great. Im not sure if I should maybe just transfer him to the display and leave the copperband in QT for another couple weeks.. . .