vortech or tunze

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

About people saying Tunze's can be pointed and Vortech's can't, this is true, however I run 2 MP40's and they are able to create the undertows and currents required that lift the garbage from the bottom, behind rockwork, etc. So in my opinion, they don't need to be pointable.

For the noise, they make a slight noise in the pulse modes, this is the ramping up and down of the motor. Is it loud, I would say NO, but it is there. In Reefcrest or Lagoon mode, they are virtually silent for me.

My vote is for the Vortech's, they just have so much more power and capabilities over any other brand.

Edit: I have also used pointable wave devices (Koralia's #4 with wavemaker) and have recently removed to let the Vortech's do all the work, and can say much much better. Didn't need any pointable powerhead in my tank.

Id have to agree here. Alot of people dont remember the flow from a vortech isnt only about the stream it puts out but also the huge undertow the pump creates. I was running a MJ900 with SF kit & a K3 on my 4 foot tank since the beginning. A week ago I picked up 2 MP10w ES pumps, at first I put them on short pulse and was amazed to see even the polyps on my mille blocked by my internal overflow moving. I also had my frogspawn deep inside of a cove well out of the stream and its tentacles were pulsing back and forth as well. Once I set it to the Nutrient Export my jaw dropped with what was being pulled out of the rocks, so much so I had to change my filter sock the next day.

Also the none wireless complaint for the tunzes is a bad one. Being able to run up to 8 pumps on the 7095 controller means you dont need to sync 8 of the single controllers together.

Ive always thought of it like this, for moving water in shorter distances the Vortechs are tough to beat. But if you need to push water a long ways, such as if you have a peninsula style tank, a Tunze is going to be a better pump for this application.

PS. It wouldnt hurt to run a MP40 and when you can afford it look at a 6055 or 6105.

[bignose]

I have about a month to wait until I can buy a pump. I have a friend who might lend me a mp40 just to try out. I like the tunze 7095 controller but I've never seen one in person though. I would only ever want 2 pumps for my tank.

[bignose]

I got my hands on 2 mp40 pumps to try out. First impression was the look of the pumps they are very nice. I quickly looked through the manual 40 some pages. This pump has some nice running modes. I got them running I could hear them especially when I turned them up, they are really noisy in pulse mode. I can't run them at max speed anyways because it disturbs my sand. I turned them down and they are not so loud but definitely noticeable. I'm currently using reef crest mode.

[The Codfather]

Jason,
maybe try two mp10w es? you have the 40's dialled back, maybe two 10's would be enough? Just a thought, I know where you can get two 10's to try, you saw how quickly they made a wave in the 90. LMK

[bignose]

They are running little above about 80% (10th led)power. I'm really surprised how wide the flow is on these pumps. I'm going to do some research on the mp10's never even thought about them before.

[MarkoD]

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUSI...eature=feedlik

[mike31154]

I run my MP40W ES pair at about 80 to 85% as well (4 foot 77 gal), in TSM as mentioned earlier. Find this a good compromise between the right amount of flow, flow patterns & sound from the pumps. I've never seen an MP10 in action but I would think on a tank your size they will need to be set to 100% for best results. No idea how much noise an MP10 makes compared to a 40, but personally, I'd rather have 40s turned down a little than 10s running at max. If you can get your hands on a couple of MP10s to try, that's great, 'cause in the end that's the best way to see what works for you.

That's a great video there Marko, really condenses the capability of the MP10s, wireless, battery backup & flow modes.