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Old 11-07-2011, 11:30 PM
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I have 6 vortechs and i think there great product.
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:52 PM
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Wes I seen your tank with the mp40s before you got the 60's and I was impressed.

I've listened to the vortechs and they do make some noise.
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Wes I seen your tank with the mp40s before you got the 60's and I was impressed.

I've listened to the vortechs and they do make some noise.
They are defiantly noticeable, loudest part of my tank, I actually switched back to the 40's. To me there is not much of a difference between a tunze or a korallia.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:35 AM
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the fact that you can keep wires out of your tank with the vortechs weighs really huge for me. i cant stand having something in there just dangling around
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:26 AM
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Having owned both I would have to say with 100% certainty, I prefer Tunze. They make for a cleaner look, can be pointed in any direction allowing for more options when aquascaping, are dead silent, they can do a wave every bit as good as a Vortech, are more controllable, and you can't beat the quality.
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Which pump has a wider flow?
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:49 AM
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vortech has wider flow. and it creates a major under tow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyZJR5Xs4eU
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About people saying Tunze's can be pointed and Vortech's can't, this is true, however I run 2 MP40's and they are able to create the undertows and currents required that lift the garbage from the bottom, behind rockwork, etc. So in my opinion, they don't need to be pointable.

For the noise, they make a slight noise in the pulse modes, this is the ramping up and down of the motor. Is it loud, I would say NO, but it is there. In Reefcrest or Lagoon mode, they are virtually silent for me.

My vote is for the Vortech's, they just have so much more power and capabilities over any other brand.

Edit: I have also used pointable wave devices (Koralia's #4 with wavemaker) and have recently removed to let the Vortech's do all the work, and can say much much better. Didn't need any pointable powerhead in my tank.
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Setup: 180G DT, 105G Refuge (approx. 300lbs LR, 150lbs Aragonite)
Hardware: Super Reef Octopus SSS-3000, Tunze ATO, Mag 18 return, 2x MP40W, 2X Koralia 4's Wavemaker
Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
Dosing: Mg, Ca, Alk

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Old 11-08-2011, 04:13 PM
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I run a closed loop so my opinion in this discussion is useless. However, if I had to choose one over the other I would probably go with the Vortech, and mostly for aesthetic reasons. In one of my smaller tanks I ran Maxi-Mods and I just couldn’t get used to look of them in the tank and the Tunze are even larger.
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About people saying Tunze's can be pointed and Vortech's can't, this is true, however I run 2 MP40's and they are able to create the undertows and currents required that lift the garbage from the bottom, behind rockwork, etc. So in my opinion, they don't need to be pointable.

For the noise, they make a slight noise in the pulse modes, this is the ramping up and down of the motor. Is it loud, I would say NO, but it is there. In Reefcrest or Lagoon mode, they are virtually silent for me.

My vote is for the Vortech's, they just have so much more power and capabilities over any other brand.

Edit: I have also used pointable wave devices (Koralia's #4 with wavemaker) and have recently removed to let the Vortech's do all the work, and can say much much better. Didn't need any pointable powerhead in my tank.

Id have to agree here. Alot of people dont remember the flow from a vortech isnt only about the stream it puts out but also the huge undertow the pump creates. I was running a MJ900 with SF kit & a K3 on my 4 foot tank since the beginning. A week ago I picked up 2 MP10w ES pumps, at first I put them on short pulse and was amazed to see even the polyps on my mille blocked by my internal overflow moving. I also had my frogspawn deep inside of a cove well out of the stream and its tentacles were pulsing back and forth as well. Once I set it to the Nutrient Export my jaw dropped with what was being pulled out of the rocks, so much so I had to change my filter sock the next day.

Also the none wireless complaint for the tunzes is a bad one. Being able to run up to 8 pumps on the 7095 controller means you dont need to sync 8 of the single controllers together.

Ive always thought of it like this, for moving water in shorter distances the Vortechs are tough to beat. But if you need to push water a long ways, such as if you have a peninsula style tank, a Tunze is going to be a better pump for this application.

PS. It wouldnt hurt to run a MP40 and when you can afford it look at a 6055 or 6105.
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