Vancouver Fans

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by gobytron

And what do you figure would have happened to any one of those thousands on the sidelines who tried to intervene?

think you would have?

You don't have to intervene, but standing and cheering the morons on is just throwing fuel on the fire. Anyone with decency should have left or be actively providing assistance to the police. Anyone identified in the mob should be presented with a bill for the clean-up. If only one person is identified, bill em for the whole thing... I bet that would start getting names produced.

[lorenz0]

There is a group on facebook right now trying to identify people from pictures

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by gobytron

Really?
and how much of this incident had to do with how badly the VPD have villified themselves to the general population...

Robert Djikansky, Ian Bush, random beatings of innocent newspaper delivery men, blatant kicks to the face of those safely in custody and not resisting; their lack of accountability makes it an easy choice for a rowled up crowd.

The anarchists know exactly how to engage the police so that it's immediately us vs them.

In Vancouver, we already have a massive distrust for them and the job of the senseless few is just made easier.

Whatever the history the VPD has with its citizens is moot. Criminal behaviour is criminal behaviour period and should not be excused.

How does robbery, assault, and arson translate into an acceptable social statement? Just because you don't like somebody or something isn't an excuse to behave like this. They destroyed the property of innocent people and companies, those caught should be forced to pay the entire bill.

[trilinearmipmap]

In my view we have a think veneer of civilization, you do not have to dig very deep to find barbaric behaviour.

The best way to avoid a repeat of this is to aggressively go after the scum with video evidence, prosecution, and civil suits for damages. Post rewards for people to I.D. the filth that did this. Publicize the scumbags names and photos after they are found guilty.

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by Slick Fork

You don't have to intervene, but standing and cheering the morons on is just throwing fuel on the fire. Anyone with decency should have left or be actively providing assistance to the police. Anyone identified in the mob should be presented with a bill for the clean-up. If only one person is identified, bill em for the whole thing... I bet that would start getting names produced.

Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap

In my view we have a think veneer of civilization, you do not have to dig very deep to find barbaric behaviour.

The best way to avoid a repeat of this is to aggressively go after the scum with video evidence, prosecution, and civil suits for damages. Post rewards for people to I.D. the filth that did this. Publicize the scumbags names and photos after they are found guilty.

I couldn't agree more.

[mark]

Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap

The best way to avoid a repeat of this is to aggressively go after the scum with video evidence, prosecution, and civil suits for damages. Post rewards for people to I.D. the filth that did this. Publicize the scumbags names and photos after they are found guilty.

waste of time and effort charging the rioters, just sue them for damages

[silentcivilian]

By the way I want to say way to go facebook. Guy lighting the police car on fire. His name is Nathan Kotylak, and he was ratted out by his ex girlfriend when she saw the picture and arrested already.

Awesome!

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by silentcivilian

By the way I want to say way to go facebook. Guy lighting the police car on fire. His name is Nathan Kotylak, and he was ratted out by his ex girlfriend when she saw the picture and arrested already.

Awesome!

I saw that too, stupid kid had a scholarship to U of C and a shot at the olympic water polo team. What a dumb way to flush all that down the drain. That's providing it was actually him and not just someone who looked like him.

[MMAX]

I was listinging to some show on sports talk radio last night. Apparently this riot would have happened win or lose. Some organized group, the same ones who protested the Olympics were said to be responsible. They dressed in Canuk jerseys and some were seen carrying backpacks full of molotov cocktails, goggles and masks. These douches started it and all the drunks with no common sense joined in. Thanks to all the hi-tech cameras out there that everyone seems to own, the Vancouver Province newspaper is going to be publishing photos of everyone involved in the criminal activity. That, along with all the morons who went on facebook and bragged about it, will eventually bring these *ssholes down.

[gobytron]

Originally Posted by Slick Fork

Whatever the history the VPD has with its citizens is moot. Criminal behaviour is criminal behaviour period and should not be excused.

How does robbery, assault, and arson translate into an acceptable social statement? Just because you don't like somebody or something isn't an excuse to behave like this. They destroyed the property of innocent people and companies, those caught should be forced to pay the entire bill.

It's not moot.
it's exactly why you had people making the mistake of siding with the rioters rather than with their city.

It not an excuse, a reason for is not always an excuse.
just a logical explanation for an illogical act.