quarantine tank question

[ensquire]

Wow , Copperband cop and QT expert. She is a busy girl.

[daniella3d]

wow, and you were the one telling me to move on? looks like you're on a personal vendette for some reason. get over it.

Originally Posted by ensquire

Wow , Copperband cop and QT expert. She is a busy girl.

[Baldy]

Wow, this topic really seems to bring out the worst

[ensquire]

I just find it annoying that anyone who disagrees with your practices or opinion is treated like a fish abuser or being less intelligent than you. As already stated on this thread " If there was one way of doing things in this hobby.........."
Your posts are so confrontational when your opinion is not taken as fishkeeping gospel.
And now I am over it. tout fini

Originally Posted by daniella3d

wow, and you were the one telling me to move on? looks like you're on a personal vendette for some reason. get over it.

[daniella3d]

I am not saying you will have problems, but you may endup losing all of your fish. Just look in this forum and see some threads about people losing like 25 fish or so. Sad isn't?

Some of these people were also for a long time, mush longer then you, in this hobby and never quarantined, never had a problem and then one day, bam.


If what I said is not the goldy truth, then saying that all aquariums have ich is even farther from that goldy truth.

what I am saying here is that stories like these don't have to be and could have been avoided if only the person would have done a proper quarantine:

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=velvet


http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=velvet


some of the worst:

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=velvet

Edit: list of loses as of 10:00am July 1/09: (26 Dead) (8 Alive)

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Well Daniella3d, good for you... In my case I have only ever lost one fish to ICH, a Powder Blue, and that was almost 3 years ago, when my tank was new. So in saying that, I am quit successful with my fish, without quarantining or hypo. So explain why that is, I don't quarantine anything. As you state it, I should be having lots of problems then.... HMMMMMM..... As you stated also holds true for me "no ich. None, niet. Never any outbreak, nothing"

[tony_3a]

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Well Daniella3d, good for you... In my case I have only ever lost one fish to ICH, a Powder Blue, and that was almost 3 years ago, when my tank was new. So in saying that, I am quit successful with my fish, without quarantining or hypo. So explain why that is, I don't quarantine anything. As you state it, I should be having lots of problems then.... HMMMMMM..... As you stated also holds true for me "no ich. None, niet. Never any outbreak, nothing"

I guess what I am saying is what you say isn't the Godly truth and if you don't do it your way, its wrong.... Cuz that isn't the case. Many ways for many people I guess.

To the thread creator and others seeking knowledge, just take all advice in stride... Non of us can claim to be experts, so please just use your common sense. If you choose to QT, go for it, if not then that is fine also.

I just recently set up a qt tank for a emperor angel that got the crap beat out of it, I had to quickly set up the tank or the fish would die(didnt move out of the top left corner of the tank for over 24 hours with its back bent and laboured breathing), Anyways after one day of in the qt tank, it was eating very well, and then 3 days ago I noticed very very bad ich, all over the fish probably over 100 spots, and that night I lowered the salinity to 1.15 or so, and as of today, i cannot see a single spot on the fish. Also i know it is advised not too, but i have a couple pieces of lr in there from my sump, and a very very very thin sand bad. IMO the fish seems that the fish would feel more comfortable.

But that is just my thoughts, very likely could be wrong.

Im assuming it got the ich because i used the water from the tank and couldnt wait for the tank to cycle with new water and such.

[abcha0s]

Originally Posted by tony_3a

I just recently set up a qt tank for a emperor angel that got the crap beat out of it, I had to quickly set up the tank or the fish would die(didnt move out of the top left corner of the tank for over 24 hours with its back bent and laboured breathing), Anyways after one day of in the qt tank, it was eating very well, and then 3 days ago I noticed very very bad ich, all over the fish probably over 100 spots, and that night I lowered the salinity to 1.15 or so, and as of today, i cannot see a single spot on the fish. Also i know it is advised not too, but i have a couple pieces of lr in there from my sump, and a very very very thin sand bad. IMO the fish seems that the fish would feel more comfortable.

But that is just my thoughts, very likely could be wrong.

Im assuming it got the ich because i used the water from the tank and couldnt wait for the tank to cycle with new water and such.

I'm sure that you mean 1.015 - this might not kill the Ich. You have to take it down to 1.009. You need a refractometer to do this safetly.

If you are not medicating then live rock and sand in the qt tank is a good thing. No worries there.

Just make sure you lower and then raise your salinity slowly. Rapid jumps are bad. Raising to quickly is much riskier then lowering to quickly.

Good luck.

[tony_3a]

Originally Posted by abcha0s

I'm sure that you mean 1.015 - this might not kill the Ich. You have to take it down to 1.009. You need a refractometer to do this safetly.

If you are not medicating then live rock and sand in the qt tank is a good thing. No worries there.

Just make sure you lower and then raise your salinity slowly. Rapid jumps are bad. Raising to quickly is much riskier then lowering to quickly.

Good luck.

sorry, its right around 1.011, I saw in a couple different places that going below 1.010 could hurt the fish? Is this not true?

Thanks for the input!
Tony

[lastlight]

If you just noticed the ich and then the spots are gone I believe the parasite has simply just gone into it's next phase: hatched and burrowed into the fish. I'm not really too smart with disease but I think that's close.

[daniella3d]

I have my 3 fish in 1.009 for a month and half now and they are in great shape, eat like little pigs and are ready for the ride back to normal salinity wich will take a good week. I don't think that 1.009 can hurt the fish, or mine would not feel so good after so long.

I have a blue tang, a kole tang and a blue damsel in there in a 21 gallons. Should be a stressfull situation but they behave great and look great.

Thanks to the porous liverock the water quality is also great. I think keeping good water quality is the key and the liverock create a hiding place and the fish feel much better if they have their little quiet place to hide.

Originally Posted by tony_3a

sorry, its right around 1.011, I saw in a couple different places that going below 1.010 could hurt the fish? Is this not true?

Thanks for the input!
Tony