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Old 11-21-2010, 03:16 AM
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This might be a stupid question but are there any companys that sell real ocean reef water say by the gallon?

Could there be any benifit to maybe adding this say, once a month?

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I wasn't really going to wade in on this discussion, but. To simply state "A salt is a salt is a salt" is quite ignorant in my eyes.

Can anyone here list the exact requirements to keep every living organism in your tank alive and thriving? Without knowing exactly what's needed and exactly what each manufacturer puts in their salt there's no way to determine which salt is best. Just because you can't measure or see a change in your tank based on what salt you use doesn't mean there aren't benefits or detriments to using one salt over another. Discarding the basics of salinity and temperature most people are only testing eleven parameters, I would bet most people aren't testing all eleven on a regulars basis or at all. I don't believe anyone here is naive enough to believe that if you keep these eleven parameters in check that you have what it takes to keep everything alive. The science behind oceanic creatures in still firmly rooted in the infant stage, there is a vast amount we don't know about the ocean and its inhabitants.

I can eat Kraft Dinner every meal for the rest of my life, yeah I'm surviving, yeah I'm fat. Does that mean I'm healthy and thriving? No. We need a vast variety of items to keep us all happy, healthy and thriving. How many elements are in the multi vitamin supplements most people take on a daily basis? I can assure you it's more than eleven. It would be foolish to think the inhabitants in our tanks are any different.

This isn’t meant to detract from any of the work that people such as Bblinks have completed. The work they have done helps in increasing the knowledge of the group as a whole as it pertains to the parameters we do know how to test and control.


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Old 11-21-2010, 03:26 AM
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I'm thinking about switching to table salt. Does anyone here think that might be a bad idea?
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Old 11-21-2010, 03:38 AM
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I'm thinking about switching to table salt. Does anyone here think that might be a bad idea?
Just use sea salt and youll be fine.

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Old 11-21-2010, 03:44 AM
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Maybe we can collect rainwater and use that. That's salty, isn't it... Maybe our sweat. Lol
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Old 11-21-2010, 03:48 AM
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This might be a stupid question but are there any companys that sell real ocean reef water say by the gallon?

Could there be any benifit to maybe adding this say, once a month?
I am sure cribsea had "purified" ocean water in 4 gallon jugs, but don't quote me on it. That might be an interesting aspect. Expensive but worth it.
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:14 PM
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Has anyone tried Seachem Reef Salt? I am thinking to switch to it because I was told their Ca value is awesome.

I am using H2Ocean now, and prior that I used IO. Maybe I got a bad batch, I think the H2Ocean salt is cloudier than the IO.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:07 PM
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I started with IO, now I'm on Seachem, and I honestly can't say I notice a difference. but then I also dose kalk, and magnesium so maybe that's why.
The only difference I notice is that when I get lazy and stop dosing kalk corals stop growing lol...
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:13 PM
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IMO...

buy some cheap salt and just dose calc/mag/alk as needed.

calc/mag/alk are SUPER cheap so instead of buying really expensive salt that supposedly has the correct levels just dose and keep your parameters more stable.

Trace elements in all salts are pretty good.

One batch of salt varies from another even though they are from the same company.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:33 PM
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IMO...

buy some cheap salt and just dose calc/mag/alk as needed.

calc/mag/alk are SUPER cheap so instead of buying really expensive salt that supposedly has the correct levels just dose and keep your parameters more stable.

Trace elements in all salts are pretty good.

One batch of salt varies from another even though they are from the same company.
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I just wanted to post what I am seeing using Reefers Best.

1.) Firstly as I stated before, it does seem to mix much cleaner with virtually no residue in the mixing pail. Mixes fast and very clear.

2.) I use to dose my magnesium, and such, but for the past couple months, I have ceased the daily dosings of MG, ALK, Str, Ca and so on. Now I only do one water change, but a much bigger one that I use to do. With the bigger water change, using RB salt, I haven't had to dose anything extra for over a month to keep parameters at the recommended levels.

Not saying others salts can't claim the above, maybe they can, but I can say RB salt is doing what I claim.
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