Black and white maxima in Canada

[andestang]

I've been after one for about 3 years now. I checked with ORA and they said they don't see them that often and shipping them to Canada is very unlikely, even through a LFS (mostly because of cities & cost) But the search goes on, like bugging one of my favorite LFS every couple of months.

[fkshiu]

I've checked numerous sources many times and the common answer is that all the really nice and rare high-end stuff (like B/W maximas) goes to Europe/Asia (esp. Japan) because there's a greater demand with higher prices there. US distributors get second crack at the good stuff then the rest of the world (including Canada) get the leftovers.

[shrimpchips]

We get them in Toronto only extremely rarely. I think I saw one or two come through last year.

[reef_to_reef]

Originally Posted by shrimpchips

We get them in Toronto only extremely rarely. I think I saw one or two come through last year.

I have seen a few around here aswell, in Toronto and Hamilton I saw a few.

[jimskoi]

I have been dealing with ORA for years and there is no chance to be getting clams from them anytime soon.They can not get permits to export at this time.
When they do.I will be the first to know and will bring lots of them in.I have been wanting their clams for years.

[Red Coral Aquariums]

Originally Posted by jimskoi

I have been dealing with ORA for years and there is no chance to be getting clams from them anytime soon.They can not get permits to export at this time.
When they do.I will be the first to know and will bring lots of them in.I have been wanting their clams for years.

I have a few customers that have purchased ORA corals from Oceanic Corals. Maybe they might want to share with us how it is possible to purchase corals from ORA???
Kevin

[jimskoi]

You cannot.
ORA does not have cites for corals,clams and Sea horses to be exported.They are not able to get the permits for them to export because the government will not issue them the permits.The reason is that ORA cannot provide the necessary paper work to prove they were not brought in illegally.Since they culture their own corals.They cannot provide the permits. So,no export.

Now some of the soft corals they have do not need cites.As long as they are on man made rock,Its fine.
I have put in request for ORA to send me an email so I can post it here for you all to read.


Someday I hope this will change.I think it will make it better for the environment to have more companies culturing fish/corals.

[George]

Originally Posted by Red Coral Aquariums

I have a few customers that have purchased ORA corals from Oceanic Corals. Maybe they might want to share with us how it is possible to purchase corals from ORA???
Kevin

I suspect that ORA corals from Oceanic are just frags from other reefers within Canada, or frags from Oceanic's own colonies, not directly from ORA. ORA uses a specific frag plug from what I read on various US sites. How did they obtain ORA corals in Canada in the first place is another story. Then again there is no easy way to tell if a coral is from ORA or not.

[Gooly001]

Oh Boy,

Here we go again.

Kevin you are more then welcome to contact DFO and have them come over and go through my paperwork.

I just don't think Canreef is the proper vessel for you to try and rehash this argument as it was already done almost the same time last year.

Cheers,

Paul

Originally Posted by Red Coral Aquariums

I have a few customers that have purchased ORA corals from Oceanic Corals. Maybe they might want to share with us how it is possible to purchase corals from ORA???
Kevin