Noteworthy american coral on ebay

[Ron99]

I don't think it's possible as an individual. You would also probably need copies of the original CITES documents when the coral was first imported into the US and I doubt the seller has any of that to provide.

[Bloodasp]

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/env...uarium-eng.htm

[Purple]

If I remember correctly, when Starry was researching bringing things over the border, if you are caught trying to bring some corals across the border they will even seize your vehicle!

[Leah]

[QUOTE=Purple;If I remember correctly, when Starry was researching bringing things over the border, if you are caught trying to bring some corals across the border they will even seize your vehicle!

Hi Purple,

Yeah, I was told the same by a friend that works at the border!

Leah

I do not know about you, but if you did your home work filled out the import papers and played the import money it would work. I believe there is no issue with aqua cultured corals as they are a self supporting industry. Corals taken from the wild you do need a special permit for. LFS's would never be able to import them other wise. Don't get me wrong but if it is illegal for the general public then it would be illegal for the LFS's. The general public just has to jump through all the hoops every time you do anything.

Bill

[naesco]

A butterfly collector was fined twenty five thousand dollarsfor importing a butterfly without a permit
Breaking CITES rules are treated seriously not like smuggling a dozen Miller./

[saltcreep]

Originally Posted by bvlester

I do not know about you, but if you did your home work filled out the import papers and played the import money it would work. I believe there is no issue with aqua cultured corals as they are a self supporting industry. Corals taken from the wild you do need a special permit for. LFS's would never be able to import them other wise. Don't get me wrong but if it is illegal for the general public then it would be illegal for the LFS's. The general public just has to jump through all the hoops every time you do anything.

Bill

The exporter in the US is required to obtain a CITES re-export permit. No import permit is required by the Canadian LFS or importer. All corals, wild or cultured, are required to have CITES export permits (or re-export for US origin shipments).

The requirements are the same for commercial importers (LFS) as it is for the general public. The government isn't making you jump through any more hoops than a commercial importer. It is just more cost effective for the commercial importers to import corals due to economy of scale.

I have shipped alot of stuff up here from the US I do know most all paper work is done by the US exporter but I have had to fill out some paper work at customs office both personal and commercial but it seems on the personal side it happened more often. It's not a big deal I'll bet that the import paperwork mentioned above is the customs paper work, I believe that I had to declare what I was importing when it was personal items for customs fees amybe. I have read some where that places may require an order over a perdetermined $ amount. Now that is not from a exporter just some thing that I have read on a forum some where and believe me this issue has been talked about on most canadian forums.

Bill

[Nihoa]

ron99 is right. its why we dont get any ora corals here. they cant get permits for their stuff to ship here as they are not the country or origin for the species. its a bit retarded cus you have great propagation vendors unable to sell their stuff and pressure remains on wild collection.

[Seamazter]

I am all for propigated corals, and admin ORA has great fish.
But im at a lose for the enginered corals, im sure they look amazing and would love to have one in my tank, but at the cost of all the corals that died before they got thier good strain, it might be too risky.
I like canadas stance on genitic engineering laws, its something the usa should start too.