Do you believe equality is beneficial or detrimental to society?

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by mark

obviously overstating but in the Federal Gov't this goes under equity placement assumed to make up for past hiring so we have a more equally representative work force.

actualy it is target hiring which is what the goverment does to try achieve a proportinate ethnic workforce. not equality hiring at all. in equality hiring genders, race, religion are usaly hidden from the interviewers untill the final selection.

Steve

[Myka]

Ok...so the point of this poll:

I have a theory that equality is detrimental to marriages and crime in particular (among many other things). I was wondering any of you would come up with this idea on your own.

Speaking IMO, I believe that by society trying to push equality (among other things) on everyone that men are feeling more inferior than they have in the past. Men have a natural want/need of "me look after woman". With women supposedly having equality in particular place like the workplace men aren't given what used to be their man-time where they go to work at a "manly job" working with men talking about whatever (godawful) things they want to. I really believe men have this need. Now women are barging about their workplace, now they can't talk about godawful things, and can't "be men". This gets taken home where their wife - now a journey[wo]man welder - makes more money than him. Wife wears the pants, and bosses the man around the house. Now man feels like child, which is exactly what woman treats him like. There goes the sex-life, who wants to have sex with a child? (ok some do, but that's not this topic) Without a sex-life the marriage doesn't do so well. (unless you're Mennonite, but they get manly men - kind of)

In the case of crime, everyone's "equal" right? People are taught from a young age to be equal to eachother which creates a society that disrespects authority because, "hey they're equal, right?"

I really believe equality is a brick in the wall, but it's a big brick. Just my (quite random) thoughts...

[Boomboy]

i like this thread many of you have said some very interesting things,i hope this thread keeps going.

[EmilyB]

Women are superior to men. No question...

[Myka]

I disagree. I believe men are superior, they just aren't allowed to be anymore.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Myka

I disagree. I believe men are superior, they just aren't allowed to be anymore.

And where were you hiding 10 years ago

Steve

[Myka]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

And where were you hiding 10 years ago

Steve

Uh, I was still breast feeding.


I'm kidding...I was graduating highschool 10 years ago. Ugh...I remember when that seemed really old.

[marie]

Originally Posted by Myka

I disagree. I believe men are superior, they just aren't allowed to be anymore.

mmmmmkay, I knew there was a reason I haven't been posting on canreef as much....I think I'll go back and read my book now

[wolf_bluejay]

I remember years ago attending a conference on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Just prior to this I was running a small company, and grew up with most of my family being business owners.

Anyways, I had a little experience with a group of students working towards a degree in social work. As group we were to decide between 2 people who we would want to hire -- The "job" was working with disadvantaged youth. The two people to pick from were A) 35 year old with Masters in social work, 5 years work experience work with youths, white male and B) 30 year old "ethnic" female with grade 10 only, 5 years experience as an assistant in womens shelter.


Now, from the point of view of a pretend manager/owner/whatever -- it was pretty clear that A was a better person for the job -- nothing do with race, gender,age whatever. Just had more education, and more relevant experience. Simple though process -- who is going to be the best and getting the job done and done well.

I was called foul names by the rest of the group. What about the woman, she might have some real "life" experience, she might not had had proper access to education, she might have never had the chance to blah,blah blah.

The sad part in all of this -- If I am running a business that my livelihood depends on, I DON"T CARE about how rough or great your life has been, I DON"T CARE what your gender,race,age is. I car about who is best for the job.
Somehow, the private sector has been branded as been "good ole white boys clubs", with the need to legislate rules in to "fix" the problem. It seems to me that a lot of these rules seem to put more racism/sexism in than was there to start.

Yes, women rarely got management when they were 20-30ish year old. But, on the other hand -- In a long term high stress, high learning curve job some owners didn't what to go though getting a mat leave replacement just before the big project is due in. Not nice, but it did happen.

I really dislike the "affirmative action" laws, as I think that my local fireperson should be able to haul 50lbs of hose up a ladder regardless if the are male or female. If you drive heavy haulers for a mine, guess what, women are the preferred gender. They driver better and the trucks have less downtime, if as a guy you drive like a twit, you get replaced.

Best person for the job, regardless of gender/race/age/religion/etc. In fact, I wish there was a way to exclude such information from the hiring process completely.

Sorry for the long winded response, my wife is a Sociologist, so these things are normal conversation around my house