100gal on mid level

superduperwesman · #1 11-16-2009, 07:39 PM

Just invite 6 or 7 of you guy friends over and have a big group huge in the spot you'd like to put it. If you don't fall through then you should be good ahah

lastlight · #2 11-16-2009, 07:42 PM

LMAO if huge == hug

haha.

kien · #3 11-16-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by superduperwesman

have a big group huge in the spot

Oh my.. is that the metaphor the kids are using these days? Man it is hard to keep up with the street lingo these days..

Have fun with your orgy- er.. I mean, "huge".

Will your tank be up against the wall on a short side? Or will it be smack dab in the middle? I would agree that 100gallons isn't that heavy for a floor to support. Someone around here has a 230g as a room divider on their main floor without any extra floor support :-)

JDigital · #4 11-16-2009, 08:11 PM

^^ Did you have to add support for yours? I can't remember...

lastlight · #5 11-16-2009, 08:14 PM

For me there is a big difference between the floor holding it and the floor holding it without bounce. You'll certainly have bounce with that volume if there is no additional support from underneath.

kien · #6 11-16-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital

^^ Did you have to add support for yours? I can't remember...

I did not. I decided that mine was close enough to a cross beam (whatever those are called; the beam that the joists sit on!), and the tank runs perpendicular to five or six 2x10 joists.

I did ask around, on forums (there are a few builders around here) and at LFSs and *everyone* said about 150g is the top end of what you can comfortably put on the main floor without worrying too much about extra support. That's why I ended up with a 150 rather than say, a 180 or 200+ like Bretts. Beyond that (150g) then you should consider it (extra support). For what that's worth.

lastlight · #7 11-16-2009, 08:19 PM

What nobody building a tank wants to address is the fact that floors can really vary. We treat a floor as some standard thing when in reality some bounce without a tank on them! Some floor joists are merely 2x8s or whatever...new homes are engineered joists and I think are far stronger.

bauder1986 · #8 11-16-2009, 08:31 PM

well, if your overly worried about the floor caving in. Go with a large footprint, and for the base of your stand, make it completely flat, the whole bottom of the stand touching the floor, not just the edges and the main post. Its a trick that is used on the rigs to move the 120000+ lbs worth of equipment, use as many tires as possible to spread all the weight equally all over the place. So if you go with you original dimensions (60" long, 24"deep) thats 1440 square inches of floor space used and about 1100 lbs of weight thats 1.3lbs per sq inch

. Not a whole lot of wieght to be supported when you use all the floor space you can to hold the wieght.

kien · #9 11-16-2009, 08:31 PM

Here's my thread when I asked this question :-)

my thread

JDigital · #10 11-16-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight

What nobody building a tank wants to address is the fact that floors can really vary. We treat a floor as some standard thing when in reality some bounce without a tank on them! Some floor joists are merely 2x8s or whatever...new homes are engineered joists and I think are far stronger.

We've got 2x12" Wood I-beams spaced 19-20" apart.. to be honest, I haven't seen this style of beam before.. I'll try and get a pic.