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Old 11-09-2009, 04:12 AM
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it was around $100 for it at marine aqua but if you tell them its 89 at j&l i am shure thay will match it
it is also on backorder at j&l

on a side note i used one case of it on my frag system running zeovit i felt it was a wast of money
same results with io or coralife for half the price
No better eh? I'm using Seachem Reef Salt right now and it's OK but I don't like my alk readings from it. Also even with 2-pt dosing my corals are growing very slow IMO so I thought I would try something new. What brand are you using now? Seems like I should just go back to IO and continue dosing.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:15 AM
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No better eh? I'm using Seachem Reef Salt right now and it's OK but I don't like my alk readings from it. Also even with 2-pt dosing my corals are growing very slow IMO so I thought I would try something new. What brand are you using now? Seems like I should just go back to IO and continue dosing.
I would go to IO or Reef Crystals... In my opinion, this is the grandfather of all salts... It has been around forever and they remain in the market all these years, while other salts come and go. So they must be half decent. I use it because it works well and because they are nothing new.
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Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:18 AM
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i have been staying with my coralife just as good as io in my opinion
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Take a look at what you're trying to accomplish and what's important to you.

For fish only, cheap salts like IO, seachem, and whatnot do the trick just fine.

However, if you're getting into more demanding corals and performance matters to you, it may be worth
it to you to be able to rely upon both consistency between batches and properly balanced levels, especially
Ca, KH, Mg, and K; which is not offered in economy salts.

We use seachem reef for our fish, and Reefer's best for our corals.
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Take a look at what you're trying to accomplish and what's important to you.

For fish only, cheap salts like IO, seachem, and whatnot do the trick just fine.

However, if you're getting into more demanding corals and performance matters to you, it may be worth
it to you to be able to rely upon both consistency between batches and properly balanced levels, especially
Ca, KH, Mg, and K; which is not offered in economy salts.

We use seachem reef for our fish, and Reefer's best for our corals.
I disagree with you, I have probably about 100 or so SPS, LPS and Zoa's, all doing just fine with the Zeovit System and using Reef Crystals at $55 a bucket... You can't call Reef Crystals lower end, they have been around longer than any other salt manufacturer... Actually Dennis at Gold's Aquarium did some testing on several salts and found Reefer's Best NO BETTER than the others, this is the reason he no longer carries it, as he says why buy it if it isn't actually better. Just my 2 cents.
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Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:29 PM
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I disagree with you, I have probably about 100 or so SPS, LPS and Zoa's, all doing just fine with the Zeovit System and using Reef Crystals at $55 a bucket...
I'd argue the fact that it's the full Zeo system doing all the work to keep your corals in check. Not the RC salt.

Plus with 100 or so SPS, LPS and Zoa's, you can't possibly be keeping your Alk/Ca/Mg in check with just water changes?
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:37 AM
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I'd argue the fact that it's the full Zeo system doing all the work to keep your corals in check. Not the RC salt.

Plus with 100 or so SPS, LPS and Zoa's, you can't possibly be keeping your Alk/Ca/Mg in check with just water changes?
Wow, before making comments like this, you should ask what I do and how I manage my setup... Who said I only do water changes! It sure wasn't me! yes I am running full Zeo, no I don't use Reefers best salt.... You don't have to, to be running full Zeo.

I test and dose for trace, strontium, potassium, magnesium, calcium and so forth... So yes, there is alot involved (in alot of cases, daily maintenance), especially as I don't run any Kalk reactors or dosing pumps, so it is a manual process for me (of which I like it this way) Don't assume, AS YOU ARE WRONG!

I get quit peaved of the ignorance of some. When I comment, it is to give my perspective (Right or Wrong), what has worked for me, what has failed... Always to often, people take what is said and bash... Take my advice and others for what it is, then decide for yourself what you wish to do with it or use in your own aquarium setup... There is never any reason for posts like this one from JDigital
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Hardware: Super Reef Octopus SSS-3000, Tunze ATO, Mag 18 return, 2x MP40W, 2X Koralia 4's Wavemaker
Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
Dosing: Mg, Ca, Alk

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I disagree with you, I have probably about 100 or so SPS, LPS and Zoa's, all doing just fine with the Zeovit System and using Reef Crystals at $55 a bucket... You can't call Reef Crystals lower end, they have been around longer than any other salt manufacturer... Actually Dennis at Gold's Aquarium did some testing on several salts and found Reefer's Best NO BETTER than the others, this is the reason he no longer carries it, as he says why buy it if it isn't actually better. Just my 2 cents.
Your statement is funny because denis told me vortect pumps were no better than any other pump and that's why golds doesn't carry them.
could it be that if golds doesn't sell products like zeovit, reeflo sequence pumps and reefers bests etc etc. that denise thinks its no good??
It looks like from other threads you don't take his advice on everything (vortech and zeovit)
I use reefers best salt and am amazed with its quality compared to instant ocean. I did buy it from j+l and the shipping killed me.

Does anyone know where i can get it in southern Alberta I have just moved here and would like to have a local source.
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Does anyone know where i can get it in southern Alberta I have just moved here and would like to have a local source.
Red coral sells RB salt for $100 or something like that

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I just did the same thing, shipping was $43... Wow, I guess they don't sell much salt then... I buy everything else from them. I think JL needs to rework things for salt and heavier items.

I guess, get your LFS to bring some in... Personally I feel Reefer's Best is overrated. I run a full Zeovit system but use Reef Crystals and have never had an issue. And the salt is about 40% cheaper.
I am going to stir the pot with you about J&L. For one shipping is done by weight mostly unless the item is oversided. Salt is one hell of a product to ship due to the weight and they would be lossing alot of money by offering free shipping on it. Saying free shipping on powerheads, heaters, skimmers, pumps... is easy cause they all don't weight like 60 pounds and shipping them is cheap. Talk to any LFS about why they bring in alot of salt at once instead of just a few buckets.
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Your statement is funny because denis told me vortect pumps were no better than any other pump and that's why golds doesn't carry them.
could it be that if golds doesn't sell products like zeovit, reeflo sequence pumps and reefers bests etc etc. that denise thinks its no good??
It looks like from other threads you don't take his advice on everything (vortech and zeovit)
I use reefers best salt and am amazed with its quality compared to instant ocean. I did buy it from j+l and the shipping killed me.

Does anyone know where i can get it in southern Alberta I have just moved here and would like to have a local source.
Actually Dennis doesn't carry Vortech's anymore, because he had nothing but problems (even the one he ran on his SPS tank broke, Gen1 version)... this was during generation 1 days, of which we all know there were issues. Dennis has a bad taste about them now, and won't try the new versions for stocking, but he is more than happy to bring them in for you. As you may know I just recently (2 weeks ago) finally bought my first vortech. I too was reluctant, because of such problems, this is why I did my research and also polled what people said, now saying that, I now own a gen 2 MP40W

He also doesn't carry Zeovit anymore, because the supplier keeps selling it at pricing where Dennis can't make any money... So why sell it when he only makes a couple bucks on a $60 bottle. I am a business owner and can understand his decision, why stock have overhead for very little profit.

So there is nothing funny here, I know Dennis quite well and don't just say things cuz... I do have the ability to back my comments up, and if you wish to question Dennis on this, you will find what I say to be true. If you wish to question me on anything else I may of said in any other thread, I am more than happy to back it up and give you my reasoning on things.

I stand by my comments, Reef Crystals is a good salt... I would consider it to be the grandfather of all salts, try to find another that has been around as long as this one. Is it the BEST, maybe not... but it works well. So in my opinion you do not need to spend 40-50% more for salt... but if you want to, go for it... If you see good results, GREAT! I can also say I have great results and I spend much less.
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Setup: 180G DT, 105G Refuge (approx. 300lbs LR, 150lbs Aragonite)
Hardware: Super Reef Octopus SSS-3000, Tunze ATO, Mag 18 return, 2x MP40W, 2X Koralia 4's Wavemaker
Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
Dosing: Mg, Ca, Alk

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