Baby Bangaii's - how successful have you been in raising them???

[Chin_Lee]

General
1) How many frys did you start out with?
28
2) How many survived to adults?
none in previous batches. Current batch still growing
3) If none, how long did the oldest one live for or how big did it grow?
previous batches - 3 weeks to about 1/2 inch
4) Did you attempt to raise them?
yes with one batch

Foods
5) What did you feed the new born frys?
BBS
6) Did you do anything special to the foods? (ie Selcon)
only if I have leftover bbs 24 hours after they hatch. (apparently they don't start feeding until 24 hour after they hatch because they will continue to absorb their yolk and develope their mouths and anus)

7) As they got older, what and when did you try frozen/pellet foods?
yes - cyclopeeze but they never ate it. wouldn't touch frozen foods

8) If successful, how did you wean them off live foods?

9) How did you feed them? (manual turkey baster or automatic setup)
previous batch - manual turkey basting bbs.
Current batch - I attached a hose to a black plastic bottle and I punched three 1/4 holes into the black bottle. The bottle sits in their living space with the top of the hose 3-4" out of the water. I pour BBS into the hose and then start a water drip into the hose through the use of an IV bag. The bbs will sink into the bottle and be attracted towards the light coming through the holes. As they swim towards the light, the water drips from the IV bag helps to push them out of the holes into the mouths of the baby bangaiis.

Habitat
10) Where did you raise your fry? (ie sump/separate container/main display)
Previous batch - in separate container sitting in sump
Refugium but I used to two glass pieces (and with help of magnets) to create a box in one corner of the fuge. Water flows into the area through the

11) What temp was the water?
78 +/- .05

12) How much swimming space did they have? (LxWxH)
first batch - 6x4x6
current batch 6x8x16

13) How much flow in the swimming space? (none, low, moderate, high)
previous batch - very low
current batch - low

14) What was in the swimming space? (live rock, algae, fake plants)
previous batch - bare bottom
current batch - caleurpa algae with many bristle worms and pods eating leftover bbs

15) What was your lighting schedule?
previous batch - 12 on, 12 off
current batch - 24/7 on

[Veng68]

Hey Chin,

Check this PDF manual about Bangaii Cardinal Breeding

http://nsgl.gso.uri.edu/hawau/hawauh05003.pdf

Also this website is dedicated to breeding marine ornamental fish

http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/i...8fc572c5a3d11c

Good luck.

Cheers,
Vic

[Myka]

Here a Bangaii Breeding Journal I made. http://216.187.96.54/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=38770 (if that works...the link looks funny)

It is incomplete though, as I did end up raising 2 or 3 batches to selling size. Those batches were 28-35 babies if I remember correctly, and none of them died from the batch. They are fairly easy to raise provided you know a thing or two. Like...get them onto frozen food within the first week. That's a biggie.

General
1) How many frys did you start out with?
28-35

2) How many survived to adults?
First few batches, none
Last few batches, all

3) If none, how long did the oldest one live for or how big did it grow?
I had issues getting them onto frozen food, and they died because I quit feeding them BBS. I think the last one kicked the bucket around 3 months old. Use the turkey baster to keep the frozen food suspended...they won't take it off the bottom when they are young.

4) Did you attempt to raise them?
Yeppers.

Foods
5) What did you feed the new born frys?
BBS

6) Did you do anything special to the foods? (ie Selcon)
I fed the BBS Selcon 1 hour before feeding the fry.

7) As they got older, what and when did you try frozen/pellet foods?
I blended up PE Mysis, and got them eating that within a week on the successful batches. They had Selcon and garlic mixed in, and I mixed it up with the BBS to get them change over.

8) If successful, how did you wean them off live foods?
See above.

9) How did you feed them? (manual turkey baster or automatic setup)
Turkey baster, although I had great plans of an auto system.

Habitat
10) Where did you raise your fry? (ie sump/separate container/main display)
Successful batches were in separate tanks.
Unsuccessful were in floating containers in the display.

11) What temp was the water?
Probably 78 like the rest of my tanks?? Not sure...

12) How much swimming space did they have? (LxWxH)
The teeny guys had about 2 gallons, then moved up to 5 gallons, 10, then 20 to selliing size.

13) How much flow in the swimming space? (none, low, moderate, high)
Very low with the teeny guys...just a sponge filter. As they got bigger they got more flow.

14) What was in the swimming space? (live rock, algae, fake plants)
Fake plants, nothing organic. Made for easy clean up. Gotta keep nutrients real low or they go gimpy.

15) What was your lighting schedule?
The little guys were dimly lit for 12 hours/day so I could feed them more. I found they did better in dim lighting. The bigger guys were 8 hours light, and it was brighter so I could prep them for peoples' display tanks.