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Old 10-16-2009, 03:49 AM
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Really? Are you serious? Most of those are even out of context and in the rest I even stated it's my preference or my belief or my opinion. I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to have a preference and the fact that my preference is around 10x was always made perfectly clear. Yes I provided some reasoning which focused on my preference because others had already covered reasoning for there preferences.

If we can't share our opinions, experience and ideas why are we hear? You actually took the time to search through all my posts and quote only the particular parts (out of context) for the sole purpose to prove me wrong and accuse me of saying something different. I'm sorry but I'm not going to feed your need to debate and argue anymore. Find someone else to stroke your ego.
I simply quoted where you suggested that 10x was the magic number, not one of these quotes was out of context, the very fact that you disagree with me confirms the fact that you subcribe to higher than lower flow.
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Old 10-16-2009, 04:09 AM
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I will be the first to admit I enjoy playing the devils advocate. A debate or discussion doesn't have to be an argument. As long as you present your position with some substance you can't possibly be wrong, just different. There's also no reason why you have to follow my advice even if it is valid. I've used oversized, less efficient equipment just because it works out that way sometimes.

There are many contradictions in the reef hobby. I've run skimmerless tanks, tanks with no water changes, closed loop (pressurized) filtration systems, and experiments with every method that warranted the effort. Some work better than others, but they all work. I've done more than a few 180's, but I always admit it when I do it. I'm willing to take or at least consider advice from the bottom or top of the hobby.

You have the right to disregard information, but you can't dispute it with hollow claims for 50 posts then try to back peddle that you never said any of it.

I'm sure this thread has been interesting reading and a great soap opera for all that are following. Three people in the aquarium trade having a heated argument about a simple subject. Everyone is going to think it was staged

I think this particular horse is sufficiently flogged. If someone wants to discuss the merits of water changes in a new thread, I'm there. I'll even take "against"
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Old 10-16-2009, 04:27 AM
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If someone wants to discuss the merits of water changes in a new thread, I'm there. I'll even take "against"
I would rather discuss the merits of not having teeth in an overflow box
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:32 AM
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I would rather discuss the merits of not having teeth in an overflow box
Because you imply that teeth are not good.
So I am wondering why are they not?
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