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Old 07-28-2009, 04:04 PM
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I rarely touch my sand bad but this is good to know.
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:00 AM
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I have sand dwelling critters too. I'm a big fan of Fighting Conches and Orange Lipped Conches. I don't like sand sifting starfish because they are predatory, and will strip the sandbed of pretty much all life. I really like Rainford's Gobies for sifting.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:42 AM
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Just go BB ! (bare bottom) no cleaning no steering, no problem
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:34 AM
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If we go to most LFS, they do not use sand at all and recommend us not to because sand bed requires major cleaning or issues would arrive (algae bloom on the sand)

I know some of us have critters to take care of the sand bed and do not touch the sand bed. I have 5 nassarius snails and they are doing an OK job but some spots they do not touch; these spots are now covered with brown diatom. I assume the occurence of diatom because of the accumulation of the detris and waste that have never been clean out. Therefore, I figure that I should be more active in the cleaning processes.

Through reading from your responses, I assume that if the critters are not doing enough job of cleaning the subtrate, then I should siphon the substrate more often. Correct me if my assumption is not correct.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:53 AM
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I have yet to see a shallow sand bed that has gone anoxic and developed the black patches in it. As far as I know, it's only a problem with a DSB.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:31 PM
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I've seen 1" sandbeds with black patches.

Nassarius snails aren't usually good enough to clean the sandbed, but they do help. If your tank is 50 gallons or more you could consider a small conch. They need a lot of food though, so you need a fair sized sandbed to provide them with enough food. They are good in the sandbed because they eat bad things, and leave good things.

Personally, I think any sandbed requires quite a bit of maintenance to keep it in top shape, so I would agree and say that if your critters aren't doing the job 100% that you should help out with siphoning, and at least stirring the top 1/2" or so. If you do start stirring though, don't be surprised if you have a bit of an algae bloom for the first few weeks you start since you will be releasing a bunch of crap stuck in the sand.
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:11 PM
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I guess everyone's situation is different. My tank is 5 years old with a 2-3 inch sandbed and I never touch it. I have narcisse snails (probably about 10) and a sand sifting starfish. Recently I had to replace my tank and was told that I should probably put in a new sandbed which I did. Much to my surprise, the old sandbed looked as white and clean as the day I put it in with no odor other than that of a beach. There were no green or black patches. I was surprised and thought that I probably should have just kept the old one but so far so good.
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